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Old 30-04-20, 03:22 PM
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AMD will have 4000 series and Rdna2, cdna launch later this year really not far away the 3000 series will drop in price as will the ones below that, it's going to be a hard lesson.

add to that xbox and ps5 all around the same time AMD are in the perfect position to take advantage it was a long time coming but it's well deserved and I'm glad I switched but really want rdna2 to be top tier.

The shoe is on the other foot now in my view, but both are needed to keep things competitive so I don't wish bad on Intel but it's also deserved.
Not one Youtube tech or shill is suggesting any one buy Intel now. Why would that change with two more cores?

Die hards only tbh, and you better be at one with death.

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Old 30-04-20, 03:26 PM
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Reminds me of the Linus video oh my now that was unexpected but also really entertaining glad he spoke his mind. I was happy on the 2500k but Idk there wasn't an upgrade for me with Intel sure 10% here 15% there blah blah IPC but my i5 2500k was solid 5ghz for years it wasn't a bad product it was a really good chip, but like anyone once you see a meaningful upgrade I'm not going to care who makes it so long as it gives me what i want at a good price so hello Ryzen 1700 whats this an upgrade path wow so yea at some point in time it'll be another Ryzen.

I think the biggest issue is the whole clock speed debate you can't really compare different arks to say that one at 5ghz is instantly better than one at 4ghz what matters is performance. Sure Intel has the edge on single core but mulit tasking for the most part they get ran over forwards and backwards and it's not like I'm only ever doing one task on my PC at a time. I'd really like to see some heavy real world testing where a game is running, music a stream being watched and also streaming at the same time then compare the two I think we all know what the result will be, but I'd like this to be in reviews more than it currently is as testing.

I really agree with you that the whole fps thing for me is a thing of the past, 5fps up or down I'm not going to notice my eyes are not that judging, i've yet to go 4k or even 2k yet just don't feel the need atm but 4k or 8k at some stage would be nice but idk will i need to look at fps then I doubt it tbh.
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Old 30-04-20, 03:49 PM
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I'll just leave this here...
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Old 30-04-20, 04:54 PM
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not enough

It's nice to see a 10core from intel at under £500 but i still feel AMD should get supported for forcing down the prices, without AMD/Ryzen Intel would still be bleeding us dry for every tiny increase.
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Old 30-04-20, 05:21 PM
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I hope the 5.2GHz boost translates to a feasible 5.2GHz all core overclock. If that's achievable with, say, NH-D15, would make for a decent alternative.
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Old 30-04-20, 05:43 PM
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After watching one video today (and finding out how Intel have priced these) it's very clear they don't use web history to show that they are pricing against AMD RRP, which hasn't existed since about 2 months after the 3000 release.

And with Intel? those *will* be the prices. Right until they discontinue it.

This is simply shooting fish in a barrel for AMD. Quick price drop, job done.
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Old 30-04-20, 06:22 PM
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Oooh some new expensive space heaters!
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Old 30-04-20, 07:01 PM
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Title is misleading.

There is no new feature mentioned in the news.

Unlocked HT is not a new feature.
Better frequency management is not a new feature.
Thinner die is not a feature...

Journalism nowadays...sorry. Hard reality.
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Old 30-04-20, 07:05 PM
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There is no new feature mentioned in the news.

Unlocked HT is not a new feature.
Better frequency management is not a new feature.
Thinner die is not a feature...

Journalism nowadays...sorry. Hard reality.
They nicked the thinner IHS idea from Der8auer.

But yeah, it's mostly just crap tbh.
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Old 30-04-20, 07:25 PM
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There is no new feature mentioned in the news.

Unlocked HT is not a new feature.
Better frequency management is not a new feature.
Thinner die is not a feature...

Journalism nowadays...sorry. Hard reality.
The headline says "new features to desktop". Turbo Boost 3.0, Thermal Velocity Boost and unique capabilities within Intel's new Extreme Tuning Utility are all new to Intel's mainstream desktop lineup with Comet Lake-S. Coffee Lake-S didn't have those.

Yes, many of these changes were in other Intel products in the past, but they are new to mainstream desktop products with Comet Lake. Unless you want to redefine what "features" are...

If you need a definition; Feature "a typical quality or an important part of something". Basically, a feature is anything. My nose is a facial feature, etc etc.

Just because you don't consider something to be innovative enough doesn't mean that it isn't new or can't be considered a feature.
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