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Old 04-12-18, 10:11 PM
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New long lasting build Advice very appreciated

Where are you located?
Norway
What is your budget?
1900 GBP ish. (Without GPU)
• What will you be using this rig for?
Gaming, photoshop, videoediting ++
• If gaming, what resolution will you be playing at?
2560x1440 (Asus PG279Q)
• Will you be overclocking?
Not manually, gonna let the motherboard's auto-thing do it. (I think)
• Do you need a full build or will you be reusing some old parts?
Full build. Current spec: Rampage Formula (first one), intel quad Q9550 clocked to 4ghz, 8gb ddr2. GTX770.

Feel like it's time to upgrade my rig, and I want the new one to last me 8ish years. (Is this the time?) This is the list I've come up with so far: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/TfFXNQ (damn parts are cheap in the UK, but fire away, price isn't THAT important, but I'm not interested in msi godlike which would just be a waste for no gain.) The motherboard MUST have WIFI.

Currenly use Define R2 but I'm only gonna use m.2 disks in the new case so feel like all the drivebays would just be a waste of space. Are there smaller alternatives with good airflow to make an i9-9900k live happily? Been looking at define c and meshify c but got into a problem where the GPU's seem to be too long to fit an AIO in the front. Does aircooling work? NH-D15? Then I have to get some ram-sticks that fit underneath it, suggestions? Open to suggestions to my whole setup, currently got 1080 ti aorus extreme incoming that I got for 410 GBP basically unused so that's the only part I'm certain of. It's gonna sit under my desk or on my desk, so don't care about RGB or looks of the inside. Would really appreciate any advice

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Old 05-12-18, 09:48 AM
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Where are you located?
Norway
What is your budget?
1900 GBP ish. (Without GPU)
• What will you be using this rig for?
Gaming, photoshop, videoediting ++
• If gaming, what resolution will you be playing at?
2560x1440 (Asus PG279Q)
• Will you be overclocking?
Not manually, gonna let the motherboard's auto-thing do it. (I think)
• Do you need a full build or will you be reusing some old parts?
Full build. Current spec: Rampage Formula (first one), intel quad Q9550 clocked to 4ghz, 8gb ddr2. GTX770.

Feel like it's time to upgrade my rig, and I want the new one to last me 8ish years. (Is this the time?) This is the list I've come up with so far: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/TfFXNQ (damn parts are cheap in the UK, but fire away, price isn't THAT important, but I'm not interested in msi godlike which would just be a waste for no gain.) The motherboard MUST have WIFI.

Currenly use Define R2 but I'm only gonna use m.2 disks in the new case so feel like all the drivebays would just be a waste of space. Are there smaller alternatives with good airflow to make an i9-9900k live happily? Been looking at define c and meshify c but got into a problem where the GPU's seem to be too long to fit an AIO in the front. Does aircooling work? NH-D15? Then I have to get some ram-sticks that fit underneath it, suggestions? Open to suggestions to my whole setup, currently got 1080 ti aorus extreme incoming that I got for 410 GBP basically unused so that's the only part I'm certain of. It's gonna sit under my desk or on my desk, so don't care about RGB or looks of the inside. Would really appreciate any advice
So to start with I've heard the meshify C is a great case with decent airflow plus I'm a big fan of the fractal aesthetic so I think that's a decent choice if you're going full M.2. I don't know about GPU compatibility though with a front mounted AIO, someone else will have to answer that one. There's always the R6 or S2 if you want a fair bit more room and the potential to watercool in the future

There are however a few things on your build I would change.

Motherboard: ASUS make great motherboards and I do like their BIOS but for the money there is a lot of evidence online that they are not particularly great this time round (Z390). The VRMs are a bit crap for the money and Gigabyte have really upped their game (finally). Check out the Aurous master which I've added which is cheaper and allegedly better according to some of the big overclockers.

RAM: I've used some of the motherboard saving and added RAM with a better CAS rating to the ones you linked.

PSU: Do you already own this? If so fine (It's a good PSU). If not I've added one I feel would be better

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/HV9tbX
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Old 05-12-18, 10:56 AM
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Just curious on your primary use though. You say gaming, editing, etc. But are you more focussed towards the video editing and photoshop or gaming?

Not being judgemental here. I see alot of people mention rendering etc to prevent people replying negatively towards you opting for the 9900k even when the focus is gaming.

If you are indeed shifting towards application work. I would not even consider a single ASUS board. They are over priced for one. Especially in Norway, even if you buy from Komplett. Obviously if the 9900k is your choice, and no one can sway you away from its overpriced value then make sure you always use prisjakt.no before buying. Its price is fluctuating all the time and currently Elkjøp has the best deal (if you can call it that)


If you are more towards Gaming then perhaps the 9700k would be enough for you? I believe a 9700k over clocked to 5.0 can provide extremely good application benchmark results. And at stock is on par with 9900k for gaming.

If considering single thread applications, there is not much difference between the two. Of course the 9900k trumps its little brother in multi thread.
If money is no object as you say then ok, go for the 9900k, but then why stop at just 16gb memory if you intend to focus on rendering etc? Just food for thought.

edit* Lastly, I think everyone here will agree, that you should not let the board auto OC your CPU for you. It often disregards voltage and just pumps too much into the chip resulting in less longevity and much higher temperatures. It won't take you long to add a moderate OC manually and even dropping the default supplied voltage to the CPU. For some its quite a fun little process.
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Old 05-12-18, 11:56 AM
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edit* Lastly, I think everyone here will agree, that you should not let the board auto OC your CPU for you. It often disregards voltage and just pumps too much into the chip resulting in less longevity and much higher temperatures. It won't take you long to add a moderate OC manually and even dropping the default supplied voltage to the CPU. For some its quite a fun little process.
Yup definitely agree with this!

Also to Warchild's point based on the build I sent over you could add another 2 sticks of the RAM I selected which would give you 32GB RAM and would be v nice for rendering etc.
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Old 05-12-18, 12:08 PM
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Will's build is pretty much I'd recommend, but I'd probably get some sweet samsung b-die memory since they tend to OC well. But that's a pretty minor benefit overall. NH-D15 does fit inside a Define C TG to my knowledge, and that's the case I would recommend as well.

In terms of CPU, 9900k is a no compromise CPU for your use, but at a cost. I'd research carefully if you need 8c/16t, for example if you use Adobe Software for editing a 9700k/8700k would work almost equally well. Ryzens would save a lot of money but then you'd see lower performance in games and adobe software, again.

In terms of CPU overclocking I'm not sure it's necessary if you buy the 9900K. Apparently without power or thermal constraints it operates at 4.7GHz under all core load and 5.0GHz with single to dual core. Another 100MHz to 200MHz isn't much in terms of performance (2%-4%) and causes significantly higher power draw, so your setup will be louder.
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Old 05-12-18, 12:36 PM
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I would buy Ryzen. Mostly because they are sticking with the same socket for their next gen.

You said you wanted it to last longer, well it will on an AMD socket.
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