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Old 23-10-20, 04:21 PM
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True, Either way I'm waiting until at least summer for stock and prices to hopefully stabilise
I think it will still be a paper launch. However, if they can sort something out with shipping ETC then it shouldn't be too long. I reckon TSMC are ramping up. Not only for these but for the 5000 series too.

I'm not in the market for pretty much anything now. I do want a GPU and block for my 2070S rig (because no one makes blocks for it ffs) so it could well be an AMD card.

I use this rig now for online gaming (PUBG ETC mainly). It would be nice to have an all AMD PC though. Funny thing is it's a green themed rig lmao.

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Well I really hope that's true, seems way more viable than I expected.
Maybe now it will become clear just why I think Ampere is so crap. It could have been so much better. They wouldn't have this problem now either. AMD are about to become a right boil on their ass.

I did have faith. I said if Nvidia had a bad day at the office and AMD had a good one the whole thing could be flipped on its head. They just need their DLSS competitor now. Nvidia can rub on about RT all they like but it doesn't impress me half as much as DLSS.

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Old 23-10-20, 05:27 PM
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I will admit I've been pro amd on these cards but for good reason, but even i expected it to be slightly less and the fact it will be slightly more is even better, kinda expected the 6800 to be around the 3070 so the 6800XT is pretty much on par with the 3080 least in rasterization is a really good sign that they have something good.

Even the DXR being on par with a 2080ti is actually very good, even if the higher end cards don't improve on that it's still perfectly useable.

The only real thing that could upset is price but even that I'm hopeful of but i think all the cards next week announced will have 16gb ram so maybe rather than undercut they might be price matched.

If these cards use Direct ML thou then that will be a very big feature what little i've seen of that looks very good.
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Old 23-10-20, 05:42 PM
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For what RT is right now yes, that is more than enough to enjoy it as it is. Notably in single player games where you don't care so much if your FPS tanks. It should be more than enough for Cyberpunk, as both of my 2080Tis handle RT very well for single player.

Of course Nvidia fans will rattle on and on about RT but any one with half a brain will realise it's still far too early for it to matter. DLSS on the other hand? will only get better.
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Old 23-10-20, 05:54 PM
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Cyberpunk 2077 isn't a demanding game tbh unless with DXR turned on and high resolution, these cards should be more than fine, by the time DXR matters mainstream were be looking at new cards.

I think they will have something similar to dlss or other methods that give the same results or at least help performance in other ways, they both have full access to DXR DX12 ultimate so it's not like they don't use the same API's.

I'm really looking forward to wednesday just hope it's not as short as the CPU event was and go's into a lot of details about everything.
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Old 23-10-20, 06:17 PM
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I think they will have something similar to dlss or other methods that give the same results or at least help performance in other ways, they both have full access to DXR DX12 ultimate so it's not like they don't use the same API's.
DX12 ultimate is supposed to have something similar to DLSS. According to a set of screenshots that Microsoft has released a while ago, it might be superior to DLSS, at least visually.
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Old 23-10-20, 08:18 PM
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Maybe now it will become clear just why I think Ampere is so crap. It could have been so much better. They wouldn't have this problem now either. AMD are about to become a right boil on their ass.
Well we still only have rumours.
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Old 23-10-20, 08:23 PM
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Well we still only have rumours.
We don't though. We have specs, leaks, pictures of the cards, what process they are on and now benchmarks.

We had all of the same things for Ampere too. Just earlier.

There is no way ever on this earth that AMD should be even be able to get within spitting distance of Nvidia. Ever. They are years behind. All it took was over confidence and before you know it you have another Ryzen situation.

None of what has happened recently has happened for no reason. As soon as AMD shot out the specs for the new consoles Nvidia s**t themselves. I think that was when it began to dawn on them that going with Samsung would be a huge mistake.

Ampere as it is? is OK. Minus all of the issues and BS. However, Ampere on TSMC 7nm would have killed AMD for good. As you will probably see if they do switch to TSMC, or when Hopper arrives on 5nm.
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So glad this card is a solid performer as it's what I'm likely buying and going to be putting with a 5800X I just hope the chips is no more than around $630 and the GPU $1200 AUD
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Long time AMD GPU user so sign me up for the Biggest of the Navi's - I've have and have used Vega VII's, 64s, R9 290s, 7870s, 6970s so I'm elbowing my way to front of the queue. I don't give a flying f for RT, I want raster power for VR, and compute for ROCm stuff. 🙂😜🙂
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Old 24-10-20, 12:49 AM
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I'm saving up but it might be late novemember before I'm ready but i'll just get what i can afford if the prices are kept down then i can get a more powerful card, but it'll be one of the three they announce next week without any doubt even if i have to save harder for it
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