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WYP 12-11-19 07:56 PM

Intel has revealed 77 new chip vulnerabilities, one of which has a notable impact
 
Intel's JCC erratum bug is said to have a performance impact of 0-4% excluding outliers.

https://overclock3d.net/gfx/articles...154030921l.jpg

Read more about Intel's reveal of 77 new vulnerabilities.

Dark NighT 12-11-19 08:48 PM

So glad i ditched my intel right now.

Dicehunter 12-11-19 10:24 PM

Holy crap XD


I'm hoping updates that hurt performance are optional, Not too worried about a world class hacker targeting me.

FTLN 12-11-19 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dicehunter (Post 1012619)
Holy crap XD


I'm hoping updates that hurt performance are optional, Not too worried about a world class hacker targeting me.

Spectre & Meltdown can be disabled via registry very easily : https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...erabilities-in and also with 3rd part app here https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm

m2geek 12-11-19 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark NighT (Post 1012616)
So glad i ditched my intel right now.

Haha same!

Don't fail me now Ryzen 3600x :D

Bagpuss 13-11-19 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark NighT (Post 1012616)
So glad i ditched my intel right now.


Ridiculous.


The chances of the average home user EVER being affected by any of these 'vulnerabilities' is between zero & never.


You'd better to worry about being struck by lightning every time you left your house.

Dark NighT 13-11-19 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 1012628)
Ridiculous.


The chances of the average home user EVER being affected by any of these 'vulnerabilities' is between zero & never.


You'd better to worry about being struck by lightning every time you left your house.


I know this, i know it is a very very small chance to get hit, but you cannot deny that this sort of thing is bad, and what is worse about it, Intel keeps delivering "new" processors still on the same node, still without mitigations and this security nonsense has been going on for a while, yet they still sit on their 14nm security fail processors.


These mitigation patches cost performance, not everyone will know how to disable them, but for those that do notice performance drops after an update and not know anything about it, made their pc less good, and yet Intel still keeps selling their cpu's like it's nothing, that is why im glad that i moved over so i don't have to deal with Intel's nonsense myself.

WYP 13-11-19 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 1012628)
Ridiculous.


The chances of the average home user EVER being affected by any of these 'vulnerabilities' is between zero & never.


You'd better to worry about being struck by lightning every time you left your house.

But the reason why this will never happen is because PCs are having mitigations applied to them. As such, a herd immunity is being created and exploits that use these security holes will have little chance of taking hold across a large number of PCs.

Think of it like vaccination. Sure, it's fine for individuals to not get vaccinated, but if enough people don't do it society is basically waiting for a disease to take hold and spead to the vulnerable.

Leaving vulnerabilities on the table is begging for somebody to exploit them eventually. Wannacry comes to mind.

Avet 13-11-19 12:40 PM

So... We are seeing patches now. But these flaws exist for 5-6 years. The assumption that someone hasn't been using them all this time...

Edit: Everyone is talking now. But... Let's say some hacker, or group found these exploits, or the worst one a year after the release of CPUs. They could have hacked The World without anyone even knowing. That would be quite literally The Skeleton Key.

demonking 13-11-19 02:55 PM

Companies should be fined heavily when these exploits are exposed on hardware that has been in the wild for years. Every other industry would, Imagine your work had not been complying with HS regulations for the last 5 years and then they were exposed or a car manufacturer had been selling a product that was not safe (at the end of the day this is all under the safety arm). They would drowning in fines and poor press. Perhaps then Intel ect will act on these sooner and spend more time on developing secure products before they release. with all these security updates going back as far as spectre, I wonder how much performance users of previous generations have lost. The feeling that they could have been mis-sold a product due to these is very real and some may be forced to upgrade due to this.


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