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AlienALX
06-06-20, 12:55 PM
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-pictured

Highly likely to be fake. Part of me hopes not though, because that's one mean looking card !

NeverBackDown
06-06-20, 08:59 PM
EA released 25 previously exclusive Origin titles to Steam yesterday.
https://www.polygon.com/2020/6/4/21280673/ea-games-steam-release-origin-dragon-age-need-for-speed-plants-vs-zombies-command-conquer-access

All future games will launch on Steam and Origins and MS Store.

NeverBackDown
07-06-20, 08:07 PM
https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27qn880-led-monitor

LG released a new monitor called Ergo, as it ships with a VESA C Clamp mount so it takes the least amount of desk space available.

1440p, 75hz, $450, USB type C 60W Power Delivery, etc

Pretty cool honestly for them to do that

Warchild
08-06-20, 10:15 AM
https://www.newsbreak.com/washington/seattle/news/0PGsrRj6/destiny-2-developer-bungies-ceo-gassed-at-george-floyd-protests

Bungie CEO gassed by Police while attending a peaceful protest related to George Floyd.

NeverBackDown
08-06-20, 09:15 PM
https://www.newsbreak.com/washington/seattle/news/0PGsrRj6/destiny-2-developer-bungies-ceo-gassed-at-george-floyd-protests

Bungie CEO gassed by Police while attending a peaceful protest related to George Floyd.

I can tell you with 100% assurance it's not peaceful. My brother lives there. They have been plagued with riots and aggressive mobs everyday since it happened. Burning and looting ain't peaceful. There's a reason the national guard was called in.

tgrech
08-06-20, 10:49 PM
This is already the largest civil rights movement in world history due to the number and size of the protests internationally in solidarity with the 76% of American's who believe there is a "big problem" with racial discrimination in the country, along with additional related causes in each country. I think we all know why those protests didn't stay peaceful NBD. I'm sure we've all seen some of the thousands of videos of the cops attacking random passerby's and peaceful protesters, driving into crowds, macing people on their knees, ect that have led to hundreds of lawsuits in the past week.

I mean, even the top military official in the US, the joint chief of staff, condemned bringing the National Guard in as unconstitutional, and told his branches/generals to stand down and ignore Trump's orders and maintain peoples right to freedom of speech.

NeverBackDown
09-06-20, 05:07 AM
Thanks for your opinion on something you weren't there for and definitely not in the US to make an opinion on without the media making it for you.

tgrech
09-06-20, 09:42 AM
I have lots of family in the US, are you personally on the streets watching the hundreds of protests simultaneously, or are you using the same sources as me? (Ive not got any of this through "the media").

NeverBackDown
10-06-20, 07:13 AM
Forbes article I came across.

A single developer make a near identical copy of Wattman for AMD on Linux. Called CoreCtrl. Basically to show AMD needs to step up their Linux support if one dude can do this himself.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2020/06/09/meet-the-app-that-does-for-linux-gaming-what-amd-wont/amp/

And GitLab link for any Arch/Ubuntu/ etc users
https://gitlab.com/corectrl/corectrl

tgrech
10-06-20, 03:41 PM
Amazon UK placeholder listing for the PlayStation 5 reportedly went up, with a listing price of £599.99.
(For US that's $765 direct conversion (including 20% VAT, $638 without tax) but probably means actual US price is $600 or something) if this is legit

https://www.hotukdeals.com/discussions/ps5-price-leak-on-amazon-2tb-3482477
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1270726012217618440

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaKGLHDU0AEtkAj?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaKGNuzUEAMC7QK?format=jpg&name=medium

NeverBackDown
10-06-20, 08:18 PM
Gigabyte announced in their newer lineup of boards meant for Creators with style, Vision D.

First one not based on Intel is based off AM4 B550

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B550-VISION-D-rev-10#kf

128GB ECC memory support, Full Speed TB3 USB Type C, Wifi 6, dual 1GB Ethernet ports with link aggregation support, 14 phase VRM, etc

NO RGB! :D
This board is loaded with stuff. How it's not a x570 is beyond me. On top of all that it looks slick. White! Tom will love this!

https://www.gigabyte.com/FileUpload/Product/2/7461/202006081624022172469a1246c86e9ab3854d03afc8ebde_b ig.png

Full gallery here
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B550-VISION-D-rev-10/gallery#gallery

Bartacus
10-06-20, 09:24 PM
Damn, that's almost Mac-like. I kinda like the aesthetic going on there, or the lack thereof, depending on your view point. Very plain Jane, no nonsense.

AlienALX
10-06-20, 09:34 PM
Thank god it's not SLIVER. That's lovely.

Dark NighT
10-06-20, 11:08 PM
Looks good, i hope Gigabyte made the vrm massive overkill to compensate for those heatsinks that aren't really heatsinks. Does look nice tho!

tgrech
12-06-20, 03:30 PM
The XIII remake has been listed for preorder on GoG and Steam, £5 normally but currently 66% off at GoG so £1.69!

WYP
12-06-20, 03:40 PM
The XIII remake has been listed for preorder on GoG and Steam, £5 normally but currently 66% off at GoG so £1.69!

The remake is £35 on my Steam.

tgrech
12-06-20, 03:43 PM
Sorry I may be looking at the original/"Classic" that's just been listed I think, even so £1.69 is a steal imo

WYP
12-06-20, 03:58 PM
Sorry I may be looking at the original/"Classic" that's just been listed I think, even so £1.69 is a steal imo

Yeah, I think you are looking at the Classic version. Still a great price though. If the remaster was that little I'd wonder how the devs would ever make any money.

Dicehunter
14-06-20, 02:57 AM
Someone did a rough estimate and based on the size of the disc drive and USB drive of the PS5 it's going to be a big boy.

Source - https://www.reddit.com/r/XboxSeriesX/comments/h7cmty/updated_console_sizes_compared/


https://i.imgur.com/CsaXTx8.jpg
https://preview.redd.it/m68gq2vi8e451.png?width=2868&format=png&auto=webp&b2f31fbb

Warchild
14-06-20, 07:39 AM
I honestly wouldnt be surprised if its been done intentional in order to exaggerate the "PS5 Slim" at a later time.

If this hardware is at its limits, slimming this could be difficult, but if you bloat the original, its not that hard.

NeverBackDown
14-06-20, 08:34 AM
Really not that big its just tall. Especially the non drive version. Volume is probably similar to other consoles tbh

Might just be me but I just don't see it being that much bigger tbh

Dicehunter
14-06-20, 09:37 AM
I honestly wouldnt be surprised if its been done intentional in order to exaggerate the "PS5 Slim" at a later time.

If this hardware is at its limits, slimming this could be difficult, but if you bloat the original, its not that hard.


I reckon down the line Sony will release a PS5 Pro with the full GPU like the XBSX has and make the chassis a bit shorter but wider, Maybe, Time will tell.

tgrech
14-06-20, 09:39 AM
I honestly wouldnt be surprised if its been done intentional in order to exaggerate the "PS5 Slim" at a later time.

If this hardware is at its limits, slimming this could be difficult, but if you bloat the original, its not that hard.
They don't need bloat to easily slim these devices, the slimming comes from the fact they can use more efficient nodes later on and therefore much smaller coolers/cases.

Similarly they don't need to "Leave performance on the table" to create later Pro models. Tech moves on, Microsoft will just use a smaller node and create a chip larger than is even physically possible now with their "Pro" model.

We probably won't see Slim/Pro models until we've been at 5nm for quite a while, probably some late derivative of it or a stepping stone to 3nm.

Dicehunter
14-06-20, 11:04 AM
They don't need bloat to easily slim these devices, the slimming comes from the fact they can use more efficient nodes later on and therefore much smaller coolers/cases.

Similarly they don't need to "Leave performance on the table" to create later Pro models. Tech moves on, Microsoft will just use a smaller node and create a chip larger than is even physically possible now with their "Pro" model.

We probably won't see Slim/Pro models until we've been at 5nm for quite a while, probably some late derivative of it or a stepping stone to 3nm.


I think we will see a PS5 Pro model, MS having the "fully unlocked/uncut" chip is a selling point and once the process becomes a bit cheaper, No company is going to sneeze at the ability to gain extra revenue.

Warchild
14-06-20, 03:20 PM
I think I will pick one up though. Hopefully with PS Now, I can catch up on old titles.

Dicehunter
16-06-20, 06:54 AM
Zen 3 may be delayed until 2021 apparently due to high demand for Ryzen 3000 so no real rush for Zen 3, Reports Taiwanese newspaper Digitimes which is one of Taiwans biggest tech news sources.

https://wccftech.com/amd-allegedly-delaying-ryzen-4000-series-zen-3-cpus-to-2021/

Avet
16-06-20, 07:53 AM
Zen 3 may be delayed until 2021 apparently due to high demand for Ryzen 3000 so no real rush for Zen 3, Reports Taiwanese newspaper Digitimes which is one of Taiwans biggest tech news sources.

https://wccftech.com/amd-allegedly-delaying-ryzen-4000-series-zen-3-cpus-to-2021/

I don't see why would they. Intel is probably launching Rocket Lake S in early 2021. Why wait? If they go out in October along with the launch of new GPUs it will be the culling of Intel.

Warchild
16-06-20, 07:59 AM
I don't see why would they. Intel is probably launching Rocket Lake S in early 2021. Why wait? If they go out in October along with the launch of new GPUs it will be the culling of Intel.

wccftech should be banned from quick news. Its literally a site based on rumors with nothing but "internal sources" :D

Avet
16-06-20, 08:25 AM
wccftech should be banned from quick news. Its literally a site based on rumors with nothing but "internal sources" :D

They did say it is a rumor from Taiwan and they stated opinion. So take it with a bag of salt.

Warchild
16-06-20, 09:06 AM
They did say it is a rumor from Taiwan and they stated opinion. So take it with a bag of salt.

What I was trying to imply is that I could say AMD just bought Intel and then site it as an internal source which is what they usually do. Easily refutable but it gets the hits.

here is the bad translation of it.

"Motherboard industry said that the Ryzen 3000 series is hot, and Supermicro has also extended its life cycle, and it is determined that the new generation plan will not be launched in September. It will use the TSMC 7nm EUV Zen 3 architecture Ryzen 4000 series processor, the fastest 2020 Mass production will only begin at the end of the year, announced at CES in January 2021, and it is currently unknown whether the process will be changed to 5 nm EUV."

And yet they bloat an entire article on this. Furthermore, WCCFtech states there are reports that AMD might skip 7nm and jump to 5nm... They presume this from one sentence which doesn't even imply anything. Usman is a world leader in spreading false info, just look at the history. He even snipes at other sites when they get something wrong.

Damien c
16-06-20, 09:21 AM
Wasn't it confirmed recently by AMD or Lisa Su that Zen 3 won't be delayed and would release this year?


Either way I am happy with my 3950x so won't be swapping it out anytime soon, unless I somehow get the money together to buy a Zen 3 cpu for my main machine and then the 3950x will go in my 2nd machine.


Graphics is the next thing I will upgrade if I stick with PC for gaming but that choice will be made once the consoles are out.

tgrech
16-06-20, 09:51 AM
Yeahh tbf WCCFtech were the only site I saw misreporting that patent yesterday too. Maybe a mistake on their part but it's like that site actively avoids doing independent research/verification incase it ruins their headlines.

WYP
16-06-20, 10:53 AM
Yeahh tbf WCCFtech were the only site I saw misreporting that patent yesterday too. Maybe a mistake on their part but it's like that site actively avoids doing independent research/verification incase it ruins their headlines.

They tend to write stuff and release it quickly and edit it later as required. So many articles from them quickly disappear and get replaced by generic rumour pieces where they talk endlessly about nothing.

Damien c
16-06-20, 01:41 PM
Might not have been posted about already but the 3800XT and 3900XT have been confirmed and can been seen at some retailers.


3800XT has the same base speed as the 3800X but a increased boost clock by 200Mhz :eek:


3900XT is the same base speed but the boost is increased by 100Mhz :eek:


Got to say if that is the only difference I have wonder why they bothered to release them since the cpu's never hit there full advertised speeds anyway, seems like a release just for the sake of releasing something "new".

WYP
16-06-20, 01:49 PM
Might not have been posted about already but the 3800XT and 3900XT have been confirmed and can been seen at some retailers.


3800XT has the same base speed as the 3800X but a increased boost clock by 200Mhz :eek:


3900XT is the same base speed but the boost is increased by 100Mhz :eek:


Got to say if that is the only difference I have wonder why they bothered to release them since the cpu's never hit there full advertised speeds anyway, seems like a release just for the sake of releasing something "new".

We will find out during testing. Having the same base and higher boost could still mean higher average clocks. We will need to wait and see.

NeverBackDown
16-06-20, 05:42 PM
GOG is giving away free copies of Witcher 3 or Witcher 3 GOTY edition
https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/360009896837?product=gog

Must be on lastest client build, have your platform integration set-up, and if you already own an edition on GOG you can get a free code to giveaway to someone who doesn't have the game yet

NickOmega
16-06-20, 11:54 PM
GOG is giving away free copies of Witcher 3 or Witcher 3 GOTY edition
https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/360009896837?product=gog

Must be on lastest client build, have your platform integration set-up, and if you already own an edition on GOG you can get a free code to giveaway to someone who doesn't have the game yet

I can't seem to get this to work, can't interact with the banner within GOG Galaxy app other than to close it. I only own it on GOG and nowhere is it allowing me to access a code to giveaway so seems like you have to have it on other platforms as well as GOG to get access to the code.

NeverBackDown
17-06-20, 12:00 AM
I can't seem to get this to work, can't interact with the banner within GOG Galaxy app other than to close it. I only own it on GOG and nowhere is it allowing me to access a code to giveaway so seems like you have to have it on other platforms as well as GOG to get access to the code.

Well yeah it says that at the bottom of the link :D

Q:
What happens if I already have the same version of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt in my GOG.COM library and a different platform – can I still participate in this offer?

A:
If you already have The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt in your GOG.COM library, you can still take advantage of this offer and receive a giftable code of the game (either The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt or The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt GOTY Edition depending on the version you own) valid for a week.



If the banner isn't working for you I'd suggest restarting your computer after you made sure the client is updated to the newest build.
Click the settings icon, bottom left you should see
2.0.16.187 - Beta

If it's a lower number, then you need to update and the link provides that info about how to do that

NeverBackDown
23-06-20, 09:40 PM
Mercedes Benz will be using Nvidia's drive platform in all models starting 2024 that will be able to get remote/over air updates as well as Nvidia's design to be a "perpetual upgradable" system similar to Tesla.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/davealtavilla/2020/06/23/nvidia-and-mercedes-benz-join-forces-in-an-autonomous-car-power-play/amp/

Warchild
27-06-20, 07:36 AM
UK taking yet another gamble by buying into the wrong satellite structure.

Now they lost access to Gallileo they need satellites. Unfortunately OneWeb has convinced them of a very risky solution using satellites not intended for broadband purposes

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jun/26/satellite-experts-oneweb-investment-uk-galileo-brexit

tgrech
27-06-20, 08:42 AM
After we invested £1.2Bn of tax payer money into developing Galileo too. The current govt have been a running joke whenever it comes to science or trading deals. At least these satellites exist I guess, which is more than you can say for some of their other fudged contracts recently.

Brexit didn't have to go this badly imo, it's been far messier than it had to be with the tech illiterate dinosaur MPs of the ERG making these jingoistic deals out of it.

Warchild
27-06-20, 08:47 AM
After we invested £1.2Bn of tax payer money into developing Galileo too. The current govt have been a running joke whenever it comes to science or trading deals. At least these satellites exist I guess, which is more than you can say for some of their other fudged contracts recently.

Its comical how UK has lost access to Gallileo. Yet another perk of voting out of the EU :P

NeverBackDown
28-06-20, 08:50 PM
A couple days ago nobody noticed but AMD released a beta driver for Hardware Scheduling. Only for Navi right now.

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-20-5-1-ghs-beta

Dicehunter
28-06-20, 10:08 PM
A couple days ago nobody noticed but AMD released a beta driver for Hardware Scheduling. Only for Navi right now.

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-20-5-1-ghs-beta


Nice find, Gonna have to do some tests :D

NeverBackDown
29-06-20, 01:18 AM
Nice find, Gonna have to do some tests :D

I'd be interested in the results :)

I don't think it'll have much effect as most games let windows handle it as that's how they were forced to do it, but it could potentially help some games in the future. Just my technical outside opinion as games were not my study focus.

Dicehunter
29-06-20, 02:58 AM
I'd be interested in the results :)

I don't think it'll have much effect as most games let windows handle it as that's how they were forced to do it, but it could potentially help some games in the future. Just my technical outside opinion as games were not my study focus.


I'll do a few GPU render tests as well as games and report back :)

tgrech
29-06-20, 02:27 PM
There is finally a softmod that allows homebrew and backups for the PS2!

"After 20 years PlayStation 2 can play burned DVD's without a modchip"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yrF4ofFVkQ

Dicehunter
30-06-20, 02:07 PM
CORSAIR iCUE LT100 Smart Lighting Towers



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AlienALX
30-06-20, 03:16 PM
CORSAIR iCUE LT100 Smart Lighting Towers



5C-5zYkjh7c

How many you pre ordered? :D

NeverBackDown
01-07-20, 09:55 PM
Not sure if this is really article worthy, but according to this site Nvidia has claimed at some point that 200 million gamers are in the GeForce ecosystem and Nvidia claims only 2% of gamers are on Turing GPUs. Which if you do the math that equates to roughly 4 million Turing GPUs have been sold. Which is less than Pascal(my guess based off steam surveys) but the profit in their earnings has only gone up. So Nvidia is charging more and making more despite lower volume.

This leads me to believe Ampere WILL NOT be cheap.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fool.com/amp/investing/2020/07/01/why-nvidia-is-all-set-for-a-breakout.aspx

Dicehunter
01-07-20, 10:15 PM
How many you pre ordered? :D


For once, None, Total rip off, Cheapo aluminium stand with ARGB strip and diffuser, £130, Total ripoff.

Warchild
02-07-20, 07:19 AM
For once, None, Total rip off, Cheapo aluminium stand with ARGB strip and diffuser, £130, Total ripoff.

You shouldnt even be considering the materials and how its made. Surely the concept alone would have made it an obvious "do not buy". It's literally designed for the 10-15 year olds.

What adult in their right mind would want this? I have 4 friends with the Philips TV that includes the ambilight. Great TV, yet all 4 turn off ambilight instantly because they believe its childish.

Dicehunter
02-07-20, 02:21 PM
You shouldnt even be considering the materials and how its made. Surely the concept alone would have made it an obvious "do not buy". It's literally designed for the 10-15 year olds.

What adult in their right mind would want this? I have 4 friends with the Philips TV that includes the ambilight. Great TV, yet all 4 turn off ambilight instantly because they believe its childish.


True, I wouldn't buy something like this anyway, Yes I like RGB but I like it on fans, Keyboards, I set it to a single colour, Something like this is just crap, And expensive crap at that.

g0ggles1994
02-07-20, 05:49 PM
You shouldnt even be considering the materials and how its made. Surely the concept alone would have made it an obvious "do not buy". It's literally designed for the 10-15 year olds.

What adult in their right mind would want this? I have 4 friends with the Philips TV that includes the ambilight. Great TV, yet all 4 turn off ambilight instantly because they believe its childish.
Streamers, who pander to the 10-15 year olds. :D

Warchild
02-07-20, 06:43 PM
Streamers, who pander to the 10-15 year olds. :D

I stand corrected! :D

Warchild
04-07-20, 05:55 PM
https://news.mydrivers.com/1/698/698146.htm

Intel could be set to lose 25% of their total sales due to ban on deals with 19 chinese companies. Inspur a heavy intel user accounted for 50% of china's server market, and will no longer be able to deal with Intel.

NeverBackDown
04-07-20, 05:57 PM
https://news.mydrivers.com/1/698/698146.htm

Intel could be set to lose 25% of their total sales due to ban on deals with 19 chinese companies. Inspur a heavy intel user accounted for 50% of china's server market, and will no longer be able to deal with Intel.

Only a matter of time anyway. China is set on producing their own stuff and using American technology to make their own stuff. Intel was selling to their replacements basically. Kinda like Apple in a way

Dicehunter
09-07-20, 06:31 PM
AMD Ryzen 7 Extreme Edition


https://www.techpowerup.com/269566/amd-ryzen-7-extreme-edition-renoir-cpu-is-a-silicon-puzzle

yassarikhan786
10-07-20, 09:06 AM
CORSAIR iCUE LT100 Smart Lighting Towers



5C-5zYkjh7c

They look really good, but £129.99 good? The only RGB I currently have on my system is on my keyboard. Was contemplating adding more and I think I'll stick with regular LED strips at the back of my desk

Warchild
14-07-20, 07:47 AM
For those who were interested in Skull and Crossbones and were surprised to see no mention of it at Ubisoft Forward stream. Here is the reason why

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/ubisoft-has-rebooted-skull-bones/

The game is being completed rebooted and will no longer be like it was, but become a game as a service.

However, what makes it different to others like Division2 is apparently that the world will change over time based on the community actions. what that entails, I have no idea.

Warchild
14-07-20, 08:41 AM
GPU shortages may be on the horizon again, including new upcoming GPUs as rumours of crypto mining have resurfaced

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/is-another-gpu-mining-wave-inbound.html

Could this mean that 3080 cards will see an even larger price hike? :S

NeverBackDown
14-07-20, 09:13 AM
GPU shortages may be on the horizon again, including new upcoming GPUs as rumours of crypto mining have resurfaced

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/is-another-gpu-mining-wave-inbound.html

Could this mean that 3080 cards will see an even larger price hike? :S

Ah what a coincidence. Price hike as soon as a Nvidia GPU launch.... Not an artificial hike or anything...

tgrech
14-07-20, 12:02 PM
"UK mobile providers must remove all Huawei’s 5G kit from their networks by 2027, government announces"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53403793

Delays aspects of our 5G rollout by a year, the new security concerns are a direct side effect of the US sanctions forcing Huawei to source third party IC's, which have not been verified to the same high standards we still believe Huawei maintains from UK security analysis this year (IE Huawei may be having to source chips from genuinely shady Chinese companies as a result of no longer having access to the US market). But of course the political and bargaining pressure of the upcoming trade deal with the US that the UK will be dependant on post-Brexit will also have been a key factor in the UK following the US' whistle with this one, and it's unlikely most other countries will follow suit.

Dicehunter
14-07-20, 01:15 PM
Corsair Nexus, Clips onto the back of select Corsair RGB keyboards, Looks pretty nifty.


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hmmblah
14-07-20, 01:51 PM
Corsair Nexus, Clips onto the back of select Corsair RGB keyboards, Looks pretty nifty.


This would be useful for displaying temps and other system info. Too bad the bezels are so big, but worse yet is the price. They want $100 for this thing!

Dicehunter
14-07-20, 01:55 PM
This would be useful for displaying temps and other system info. Too bad the bezels are so big, but worse yet is the price. They want $100 for this thing!


If it was £49.99 I'd get it as I do like monitoring my temps etc... with Hwinfo in the system tray or Afterburner ingame but £89.99 is a big no from me plus you have to have 1 of their newer keyboards for it to clip onto and I have the Asus ROG Claymore which I absolutely love, No touch screen gadget is worth giving that up ^_^

NeverBackDown
14-07-20, 09:08 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gamesindustry.biz/amp/2020-07-14-creative-assembly-appoints-james-clarke-as-new-coo


Creative Assembly hired/appointed a new COO who's previous experience was with EA for 15 years as a financial analyst.

He's looking to get ca working on an IP they fully own and can grow. Unlike their Warhammer series which is licensed.

Dicehunter
15-07-20, 04:05 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gamesindustry.biz/amp/2020-07-14-creative-assembly-appoints-james-clarke-as-new-coo


Creative Assembly hired/appointed a new COO who's previous experience was with EA for 15 years as a financial analyst.

He's looking to get ca working on an IP they fully own and can grow. Unlike their Warhammer series which is licensed.


Wish CA would make Alien:Isolation 2, They left the story wide open for a sequel.

tgrech
15-07-20, 08:40 PM
Mass synchronised hacking has gone down on Twitter, hitting major celebrities, game accounts and crypto accounts.

Edit: they just got bill gates too
https://i.gyazo.com/93c2649a453dab1bcd8b18b6406b89a8.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ec_ngSmWkAEiIoU?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ec_ngSqXoAEfONo?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ec_eKYUXsAE8MGf?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ec_ePhIXsAE_n_N?format=jpg&name=large

tgrech
15-07-20, 09:02 PM
Whhoooooo thats a biggie

Edit: Never ending https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1283507551586459648

Edit2: Jeff Bezos, Uber, Joe Biden, Mike Bloomberg as well

Edit3: Wiz Khalifa, Obama

https://twitter.com/Apple/status/1283506278707408900

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tgrech
16-07-20, 10:30 AM
Toms hardware got hold of the schematics for the new PCI-SIG 12-pin PCIe connector(Confirmed as real), that may be used in some upcoming GPUs(Unconfirmed).

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-ampere-graphics-cards-may-use-new-12-pin-pcie-power-connector

g0ggles1994
16-07-20, 11:19 AM
Toms hardware got hold of the schematics for the new PCI-SIG 12-pin PCIe connector(Confirmed as real), that may be used in some upcoming GPUs(Unconfirmed).

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-ampere-graphics-cards-may-use-new-12-pin-pcie-power-connector
Can't see why this would even be a thing since the pinout is essentially two 6 pin connectors glued together. Shouldn't the industry be more focused on efficiency and reduce power demand?
On a side note, imagine a dual Vega 64 operating with 2 of them :D

tgrech
16-07-20, 11:59 AM
I guess space efficiency(theres only 2 current carrying pairs per 6 pin, then a sense pin and one useless pin, three current carrying pairs and two sense pins in an 8-pin, whereas the full 6 current carrying pairs and no sense pins needed in this single 12 pin connector) and unifying the power port on devices that would otherwise require more than a single 8-pin

Warchild
16-07-20, 12:01 PM
Can't see why this would even be a thing since the pinout is essentially two 6 pin connectors glued together. Shouldn't the industry be more focused on efficiency and reduce power demand?
On a side note, imagine a dual Vega 64 operating with 2 of them :D

I like the 12pin change. Makes cable management better. And if it becomes standard, you might see more manufacturers making products like the EVGA Power connector so you can hide the cables completely.

Its hard to do that right now, because not all cards require the same connections, so reference is the only safe bet to make something like that.

NeverBackDown
18-07-20, 10:52 PM
https://www.trueachievements.com/n42488/xbox-live-gold-12-month-subscription

MS drop the 12 month Xbox Live Gold membership from their store.
"At this time, Xbox has decided to remove the 12 months Xbox Live Gold SKU from the Microsoft online Store. Customers can still sign up for a one month or three month Xbox Live Gold subscription online through the Microsoft Store."

Alongside them cancelling all non X consoles and only producing the One S.

With Project xCloud being bundled with the subscription, they could be increasing the price of the membership and want to stop people from getting the 12 year membership at a lower discount once it gets merged with all their services under perhaps a different subscription, and force people to pay more once they get next gen.

If they do this it will anger a lot of gamers. Most Xbox players probably just play Xbox multiplayer games and that's it. Forcing them to pay more for no benefit ain't gonna fly.

Time will tell what they plan on doing.

NeverBackDown
19-07-20, 05:03 PM
Ubisoft is purposefully limiting PS5 to sub 4k resolution in far cry 6
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mspoweruser.com/ubisoft-confirms-far-cry-6-4k-xbox-one-x-series-x/amp/

Only Series X and One X will support 4k. Pretty annoying considering how much more powerful PS5 is already over One X and the PS4 Pro did FC5 at 1620p.


If this is the new "exclusive" crap that MS are paying for, that's extremely disappointing.

Dicehunter
01-08-20, 09:23 AM
Thought this was worth sharing, Disgusting behaviour on MSI's part that GamersNexus exposes, TechTeamGB has also come forward and exposed this practise, I wonder how many more vendors have offered money to YouTube tech reviewers to alter or not publish reviews.

O6BXwCJtaZE

Dicehunter
03-08-20, 06:23 PM
Looks like Intel's XE GPU's may be dead in the water -

https://adoredtv.com/exclusive-arctic-sound-family-ponte-vecchio-and-the-future-of-intel-graphics/

Warchild
03-08-20, 07:13 PM
Looks like Intel's XE GPU's may be dead in the water -

https://adoredtv.com/exclusive-arctic-sound-family-ponte-vecchio-and-the-future-of-intel-graphics/

That was a good read. And even considering Intels bad dilemma, I was not expecting this kind of info so soon.

Dicehunter
04-08-20, 09:17 AM
That was a good read. And even considering Intels bad dilemma, I was not expecting this kind of info so soon.

It's a shame really as the GPU market desperately needs more competition.

On a side note it looks like there may be a PS5 Pro like I said months ago when the specs of both new consoles were unveiled.

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/74191/playstation-5-pro-with-multi-gpu-tech-outlined-in-new-sony-patent/index.html

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Avet
04-08-20, 02:51 PM
It is only one retailer but AMD is still a long way behind Nvidia.

https://www.techspot.com/news/86236-retailer-data-shows-amd-5000-series-has-almost.html

Dicehunter
04-08-20, 06:25 PM
It is only one retailer but AMD is still a long way behind Nvidia.

https://www.techspot.com/news/86236-retailer-data-shows-amd-5000-series-has-almost.html


Doesn't surprise me, Most of the vendors do terrible jobs with their cards, Through my own experience the best AIB for AMD is Sapphire, 2nd is XFX, The rest seem to put no real effort in at all, They get their Nvidia design, Reduce the quality and then use it on the AMD card.

tgrech
04-08-20, 06:33 PM
Yeah, as that article points out, not only were most of the RMA's are with PowerColor, but it was the Red Devil SKU specifically accounting for the significant majority of RMA's across the whole stack. If you take that SKU out they have lower RMA rates than NVidia, surprised that Red Devil ever made it to manufacture with almost 1 in 6 failing.

Dicehunter
04-08-20, 06:38 PM
Yeah, as that article points out, not only were almost all the RMA's are with PowerColor, but it was a single Red Devil SKU specifically accounting for the significant majority of RMA's across the whole stack.


It was probably due to poor contact between the cold plate and die, AMD's partners seem to be making a habit of making really good coolers but having terrible contact on the actual die, The Radeon VII being a prime example, Made by Coolermaster I think ? And that had terrible contact with the die, Gamers Nexus did a video on it showing the majority of the die has zero contact with the cooler.

Dicehunter
04-08-20, 09:55 PM
Radeon Adrenaline 20.8.1 has released.

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-20-8-1?sf236540851=1


Support For



Hyper Scape™
Horizon Zero Dawn™ Complete Edition for PC
Grounded™RS-338

The Epic preset on the Radeon™ RX 5700 XT offers up to 9% better FPS performance playing Grounded with Radeon™ Software Adrenalin 2020 edition 20.8.1 versus the Radeon™ Software Adrenalin 2020 Edition 20.7.2.



Fixed Issues



With Radeon FreeSync enabled, task switching to another display or application may intermittently cause the desktop refresh rate to be locked to an arbitrary interval causing stuttering.
Streaming and recording features are not working or are failing to enable on Radeon RX 5000 series graphics products in Windows® 7 system configurations.
Radeon Software may experience an application crash or hang when waking from sleep after joining the AMD User Experience program.
DOOM™ Eternal may experience a very dark or dim screen when changing V-Sync settings in game with HDR enabled.
Hot plugging a powered off HDMI display and then powering on the display, may intermittently cause a system crash or hang.
Enabling Instant Replay may rarely cause a system hang or TDR on Radeon RX 5000 series graphics products.
Compatibility Advisor may show an “Unable to get requirements” error message when opened. Users will need to perform a factory reset of settings in Radeon Software for this fix to take effect.

Known Issues



With Radeon FreeSync enabled on Radeon RX 5000 series system configurations, task switching to another display or application may cause the display to flicker for a few moments.
Brightness flickering may be experienced on some VP9 video content playback through applications or web browsers on Radeon RX 5000 series graphics product system configurations.
Enhanced Sync may cause a black screen to occur when enabled on some games and system configurations. Any users who may be experiencing issues with Enhanced Sync enabled should disable it as a temporary workaround.
Performance Metrics Overlay and the Performance Tuning tab incorrectly report higher than expected idle clock speeds on Radeon RX 5700 series graphics products. Performance and power consumption are not impacted by this incorrect reporting.
With HDR enabled, Windows® desktop may experience flickering, and performing a task switch while in a game may cause colors to become washed out or over saturated.
Audio may experience instability when connected through an Audio Video Receiver via HDMI® on Radeon RX 5000 series graphics products
YouTube playback may become frozen with Microsoft® Edge player and Chrome™ when played on an extended display on some AMD Ryzen™ 7 3000 series and AMD Ryzen™ 4000 series APU system configurations.
Modifying the HDMI Scaling slider may cause FPS to become locked to 30.
AMD is investigating isolated reports of intermittent system hangs while exiting system sleep on some AMD Ryzen™ 3000 Series Mobile Processors with Radeon™ Graphics.
Some games may exhibit stutter intermittently during gameplay on Radeon RX 5000 series graphics products.
AMD will continue to monitor and investigate any new reports of black screen or system hang issues during extended periods of gameplay closely. Users are encouraged to use the new Bug Reporting Tool for any issues they may encounter.

Footnotes



RS-338, Testing by AMD Performance Labs as of July 28, 2020 using a test system configured with an Intel Core i9-9900K CPU (3.6GHz), 16GB DDR4-3200MHz memory, a Radeon™ RX 5700 XT graphics card and Windows 10 x64 with Radeon Software Adrenalin 2020 Edition 20.8.1, and a similarly configured system with Software Adrenalin 2020 Edition 20.7.2, to test driver over driver FPS performance using the game Grounded at 1920x1080 resolution. Performance may vary.

Warchild
05-08-20, 06:54 AM
That HDR issue is atrocious.

Warchild
07-08-20, 08:50 AM
Massive data breach at Intel. 20gb of documents including chip designs and architecture

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/intel-leak-20gb-of-source-code-internal-docs-from-alleged-breach/

Dark NighT
07-08-20, 09:14 AM
Massive data breach at Intel. 20gb of documents including chip designs and architecture

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/intel-leak-20gb-of-source-code-internal-docs-from-alleged-breach/


Ouchhhh that has got to hurt them badly.

tgrech
08-08-20, 04:43 PM
The records that Animal Crossing has been breaking have been quite impressive, after only 4 months its now the best selling single SKU game in Japan ever made, or the third best selling total after the first two Pokemon games.

https://twitter.com/GameDataLibrary/status/1291513640693227521?s=09

Avet
08-08-20, 05:00 PM
The records that Animal Crossing has been breaking have been quite impressive, after only 4 months its now the best selling single SKU game in Japan ever made, or the third best selling total after the first two Pokemon games.

https://twitter.com/GameDataLibrary/status/1291513640693227521?s=09

I still don't get why... There are soo many better games...

tgrech
08-08-20, 06:43 PM
Untapped demographics I guess is the simple answer, don't play it myself but it was so popular even here in the UK that Switch's were selling for £500+ on ebay after its launch because they were impossible to get hold of.

Dicehunter
08-08-20, 06:57 PM
I still don't get why... There are soo many better games...


It's simple that's why, Not saying that as a put down but sometimes the simplest games give people the most joy as they can kind of switch off and relax.

Warchild
14-08-20, 03:37 PM
Apparently Embracer group has aquired several game studios including 4A games and also confirmed a 4th Metro is on its way.

https://www.kitguru.net/gaming/matthew-wilson/embracer-group-acquires-several-new-studios-including-4a-games/

g0ggles1994
14-08-20, 08:39 PM
Apparently Embracer group has aquired several game studios including 4A games and also confirmed a 4th Metro is on its way.

https://www.kitguru.net/gaming/matthew-wilson/embracer-group-acquires-several-new-studios-including-4a-games/
Doesn't surprise me. I think I remember seeing something last year about THQ Nordic acquiring a lot of Deep Silver IP.

Also not surprised about a fourth Metro as well, sales keep increasing game on game so it's safe bank now. I just hope it doesn't become yet another open world shooter with crafting and collectables like the vast majority of games these days. Exodus is as close to that as I'd be willing to accept.

NeverBackDown
18-08-20, 07:25 AM
IBM launches Power10 CPU, jumping from 14nm to 7nm increasing efficiency by 3x and quadrupling AES engines per core for ultimate security with future proofing in mind for future security instruction sets.

Other highlight is 20x performance in AI workloads and a new technology called memory inception allowing "clusters of physical memory to be shared across a pool of systems. Each system in the pool can access all of the memory, and memory clusters can be scaled up to petabytes in size."

More info here.
https://www.pcmag.com/news/ibm-launches-7nm-power10-processor

AlienALX
18-08-20, 09:28 AM
Doesn't surprise me. I think I remember seeing something last year about THQ Nordic acquiring a lot of Deep Silver IP.

Also not surprised about a fourth Metro as well, sales keep increasing game on game so it's safe bank now. I just hope it doesn't become yet another open world shooter with crafting and collectables like the vast majority of games these days. Exodus is as close to that as I'd be willing to accept.

What you missed it?

On the floor in one of the rooms was a book with Metro 2034 on the front cover.

Oh and apparently the XBsex is going to be £599 and the PS4 £499.

g0ggles1994
18-08-20, 12:29 PM
What you missed it?

On the floor in one of the rooms was a book with Metro 2034 on the front cover.

Oh and apparently the XBsex is going to be £599 and the PS4 £499.
I saw the books in Last Light and Exodus haha. Dimitry and 4A said 2034 isn't going to get a game as 2034's story doesn't have enough substance to make it worth it. 2035 is a novelization of Last Light and Exodus won't be getting one.

And not surprised on those prices, although the PS5's price does seem to be a reduction since everything up to now said it was going to be expensive as hell

AlienALX
18-08-20, 01:02 PM
I saw the books in Last Light and Exodus haha. Dimitry and 4A said 2034 isn't going to get a game as 2034's story doesn't have enough substance to make it worth it. 2035 is a novelization of Last Light and Exodus won't be getting one.

And not surprised on those prices, although the PS5's price does seem to be a reduction since everything up to now said it was going to be expensive as hell

TBH £500 is very expensive for a console.

The 3DO launched around that, and didn't sell at all well.

Then again this is today I suppose. What other choice do people have?

That said, on a technical standpoint they both sound like terrific value. Especially given that lower tier mid range GPUs are really lame. A RX 580/590 is still the norm at a high price, given how old it is now.

If PC gaming doesn't get a big boost at the lower end it could be bad. People will just get the consoles instead.

tgrech
18-08-20, 01:15 PM
TBH £500 is very expensive for a console.

The 3DO launched around that, and didn't sell at all well.

Then again this is today I suppose. What other choice do people have?

That said, on a technical standpoint they both sound like terrific value. Especially given that lower tier mid range GPUs are really lame. A RX 580/590 is still the norm at a high price, given how old it is now.

If PC gaming doesn't get a big boost at the lower end it could be bad. People will just get the consoles instead.
Tbf when the 3DO launched £500 was equivalent to about £1000 today, I think the new pricing point is based on the relatively strong sales of the mid-console refreshes, particularly the XboneX vs its base models.

But, with the XSeS coming besides the XSeX, it seems like Microsoft may have cornered off the low-cost/traditional price console market for a little while this generation, I assume Sony will keep filling that space with the PS4Pro instead and just aim for aggressive PS5 price cuts, probably just cutting the digital edition PS5 price aggressively on the assumption it will pay back later in store revenue.

AlienALX
18-08-20, 01:32 PM
I saw the books in Last Light and Exodus haha. Dimitry and 4A said 2034 isn't going to get a game as 2034's story doesn't have enough substance to make it worth it. 2035 is a novelization of Last Light and Exodus won't be getting one.

And not surprised on those prices, although the PS5's price does seem to be a reduction since everything up to now said it was going to be expensive as hell

Sorry, forgot to reply to the Metro bit.

IMO? Exodus was very boring. Too much waffle, unskippable and I am glad I chose story mode because tbh? that is about as much as it was.

The action in the valley area was very good (even though it turns out I basically shouldn't have done any because it screwed over my ending ffs) and I quite liked the bit in the shelter where you were looking for the Asian bird's picture. That reminded me of Fallout, only with much more atmosphere and presence. Unlike any Fallout game since FO3.

But. The action just wasn't there. And when you are totally clucking for it because it waffles for 30 mins between scenes? and then punishes you for taking that action? then it isn't really much of a game any more.

I walked into loads of scenes with my gun holstered and only shot at those who shot at me. So I was awful peeved to get to the end and realise I was being smited for that.

If the next one is anything like Exodus? I won't bother. Last Light was the ultimate game in the series for me. It was fantastic.

Maybe they should skip 2034 if that is the case, and just make their own action packed follow on? that doesn't follow the rules or the book. It would be a much better game. I mean, how the F can you give someone such an incredible sniper rifle and if they use it screw them over at the end? you can't snipe mutants it is only good against humans.

Just to point out that it isn't all negative. Like I said, the valley scene was awesome and I approve of the titties and botties bit.

Warchild
18-08-20, 03:40 PM
Sorry, forgot to reply to the Metro bit.

IMO? Exodus was very boring. Too much waffle, unskippable and I am glad I chose story mode because tbh? that is about as much as it was.

The action in the valley area was very good (even though it turns out I basically shouldn't have done any because it screwed over my ending ffs) and I quite liked the bit in the shelter where you were looking for the Asian bird's picture. That reminded me of Fallout, only with much more atmosphere and presence. Unlike any Fallout game since FO3.

But. The action just wasn't there. And when you are totally clucking for it because it waffles for 30 mins between scenes? and then punishes you for taking that action? then it isn't really much of a game any more.

I walked into loads of scenes with my gun holstered and only shot at those who shot at me. So I was awful peeved to get to the end and realise I was being smited for that.

If the next one is anything like Exodus? I won't bother. Last Light was the ultimate game in the series for me. It was fantastic.

Maybe they should skip 2034 if that is the case, and just make their own action packed follow on? that doesn't follow the rules or the book. It would be a much better game. I mean, how the F can you give someone such an incredible sniper rifle and if they use it screw them over at the end? you can't snipe mutants it is only good against humans.

Just to point out that it isn't all negative. Like I said, the valley scene was awesome and I approve of the titties and botties bit.

I thought the waffling would be right up your alley being british ;)

Dicehunter
18-08-20, 06:18 PM
Nvidia's 3090 is rumoured to cost around $2000, If they also continue with their Titan series I can foresee that being $3000+

https://www.techpowerup.com/271081/rumor-geforce-rtx-3090-pricing-to-arrive-around-the-usd-2-000-mark

Warchild
18-08-20, 07:41 PM
Nvidia's 3090 is rumoured to cost around $2000, If they also continue with their Titan series I can foresee that being $3000+

https://www.techpowerup.com/271081/rumor-geforce-rtx-3090-pricing-to-arrive-around-the-usd-2-000-mark

The 3090 is the titan in my opinion. Its easier to name. They had issues before with all the naming, and its only so many times you can call it Titan RTX.

Titan
Titan black
Titan X
Titan Xp
Titan RTX

Just makes things far easier for them.

Dicehunter
18-08-20, 09:47 PM
The 3090 is the titan in my opinion. Its easier to name. They had issues before with all the naming, and its only so many times you can call it Titan RTX.

Titan
Titan black
Titan X
Titan Xp
Titan RTX

Just makes things far easier for them.

You could be right we don't really know just yet, They could always call it Titan-A for Ampere.

On a side note, Facebook will require all new Oculus users to sign in using their Facebook account with existing Oculus users having to switch by 2023, Bringing several security and privacy concerns up.

https://www.pcgamer.com/oculus-vr-headsets-will-soon-require-facebook-accounts/?utm_content=buffer9c08c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgamerfb

Dark NighT
18-08-20, 10:00 PM
You could be right we don't really know just yet, They could always call it Titan-A for Ampere.

On a side note, Facebook will require all new Oculus users to sign in using their Facebook account with existing Oculus users having to switch by 2023, Bringing several security and privacy concerns up.

https://www.pcgamer.com/oculus-vr-headsets-will-soon-require-facebook-accounts/?utm_content=buffer9c08c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgamerfb


And this is why i never wanted to own a Oculus, because it's facebook, and facebook does what facebook does, force it on you.

Dicehunter
18-08-20, 10:13 PM
And this is why i never wanted to own a Oculus, because it's facebook, and facebook does what facebook does, force it on you.


Indeed, As long as Steam remains the way it is it's fine, Heck you can make a fake account and just use it for SteamVR and Steam wouldn't give a toss, Outside of your IP address no real identifiable info about you as long as you don't buy anything, Facebook though is reminding me of a dystopian company more and more as time goes on.

g0ggles1994
18-08-20, 10:26 PM
You could be right we don't really know just yet, They could always call it Titan-A for Ampere.

On a side note, Facebook will require all new Oculus users to sign in using their Facebook account with existing Oculus users having to switch by 2023, Bringing several security and privacy concerns up.

https://www.pcgamer.com/oculus-vr-headsets-will-soon-require-facebook-accounts/?utm_content=buffer9c08c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgamerfb
Hell. F'ing. No. Always said I'd never buy Oculus since it's Facebook owned and this further solidifies my stance. But the problem is that the general public will eat it up for convenience and the 'safety' that comes with a well known brand.
Honestly, the more and more I look at things now, I just think of them as prolefeed.

looz
19-08-20, 12:44 AM
The 3090 is the titan in my opinion. Its easier to name. They had issues before with all the naming, and its only so many times you can call it Titan RTX.

Titan
Titan black
Titan X
Titan Xp
Titan RTX

Just makes things far easier for them.
No no, hear me out on this one:


Titan Super

Warchild
19-08-20, 08:24 AM
No no, hear me out on this one:


Titan Super

Wouldn't put it past them.

KingNosser
19-08-20, 10:20 AM
Titan Super Turbo Championship Edition II

The advert would be Jensun doing a fireball while shouting it just works :P

if there are any uppercuts in the ad obviously it'll be the more you buy the more you save :D

tgrech
19-08-20, 10:58 AM
New Xbox Series X SoC details revealed at Hot Chips: https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/313906-new-xbox-series-x-soc-gpu-details-revealed-at-hot-chips-32

360mm2 die

https://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Xbox-Series-X.jpg

https://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Xbox-Block-640x383.jpg

Dicehunter
19-08-20, 05:30 PM
The shady info about Facebook keeps coming, Big Screen Beta VR dev stated he was told by Facebook that they should join them as they will just crush them anyway and apparently there's a long list of VR developers that have been in a roundabout way basically threatened by Facebook.


https://twitter.com/dshankar/status/1295825811748999173?s=21

Warchild
19-08-20, 08:07 PM
The shady info about Facebook keeps coming, Big Screen Beta VR dev stated he was told by Facebook that they should join them as they will just crush them anyway and apparently there's a long list of VR developers that have been in a roundabout way basically threatened by Facebook.


https://twitter.com/dshankar/status/1295825811748999173?s=21

I bet you zuckerberg isnt even aware of half the shady dealings that go on once he lets his executives get free reign on everything.

Dicehunter
19-08-20, 09:57 PM
I bet you zuckerberg isnt even aware of half the shady dealings that go on once he lets his executives get free reign on everything.

Probably why he looks so worried every time he's questioned by officials "Oh crap what did they do now".

I used to like Facebook for what it was meant to be but as of right now it needs a major house cleaning, The platform itself has turned into a cesspool and its owners are just nuts.

looz
20-08-20, 12:49 PM
I suppose Zuck is busy bullying his Kauai neighbours.

Dicehunter
26-08-20, 02:17 PM
More damning info about Zuckboys anti competitive plan for VR, In 2015 he wanted to buy Unity which is used by a lot of VR devs, Thankfully it fell through.

https://twitter.com/EswARVR/status/1298014110630715400?s=20

Avet
26-08-20, 09:45 PM
I didn't expect AMD to be this much behind.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gpus-gain-major-market-share-versus-amd-radeon-in-q2-2020/

AlienALX
26-08-20, 09:52 PM
I don't think there has ever been a time, even when they were ahead as ATI, that they have ever had a great marketshare.

All about the mindshare.

WYP
26-08-20, 09:52 PM
I didn't expect AMD to be this much behind.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gpus-gain-major-market-share-versus-amd-radeon-in-q2-2020/

Not hugely surprising. Gaming notebook sales are on the rise and AMD barely has a foot in that market. As much as people love to hate on RTX, it is a major feature that NV has and AMD don't which is another huge factor.

g0ggles1994
30-08-20, 08:25 AM
EA decided the best thing to put into Sims next is Star Wars...
https://metro.co.uk/2020/08/28/sims-4-heading-galaxy-far-far-away-star-wars-expansion-13191313/
I have no words. If there's one thing the main Sims community doesn't care about, it's Star Wars

looz
01-09-20, 07:31 PM
DF had a 3080 for testing, they weren't allowed to release FPS or frame times, but they could compare it directly against 2080.


https://youtu.be/cWD01yUQdVA

Warchild
01-09-20, 07:39 PM
DF had a 3080 for testing, they weren't allowed to release FPS or frame times, but they could compare it directly against 2080.


https://youtu.be/cWD01yUQdVA

Its impressive results.

Dicehunter
01-09-20, 08:11 PM
Its impressive results.


Up to 80% faster on average than a 2080, So probably around 30-40% faster than a 2080 Ti for nearly half the money of a new 2080 Ti FE, That's pretty damn impressive.

Warchild
01-09-20, 08:17 PM
Up to 80% faster on average than a 2080, So probably around 30-40% faster than a 2080 Ti for nearly half the money of a new 2080 Ti FE, That's pretty damn impressive.

I honestly think ill end up with a 3090.

Dicehunter
01-09-20, 08:21 PM
I honestly think ill end up with a 3090.


Personally couldn't justify it, I was actually thinking earlier "maybe I should get it for VR ?" but common sense took over XD

Warchild
01-09-20, 08:34 PM
Personally couldn't justify it, I was actually thinking earlier "maybe I should get it for VR ?" but common sense took over XD

im thinking more towards upcoming titles. Really want to keep pushing this 240 hz monitor to its limit.

At the moment, replaying Mechwarrior 5 with butter smoothness feels like a whole new game. its so enjoyable.

Dicehunter
01-09-20, 10:03 PM
im thinking more towards upcoming titles. Really want to keep pushing this 240 hz monitor to its limit.

At the moment, replaying Mechwarrior 5 with butter smoothness feels like a whole new game. its so enjoyable.


I only play at 100Hz Ultrawide and also do VR at 120Hz so I don't need in excess of that really, Will be interesting to see benchmarks though.

Dicehunter
01-09-20, 10:22 PM
Pretty interesting stuff, Microsoft adds more goodness to DX12.


https://www.guru3d.com/news_story/microsoft_adds_directx_12_feature_level_12_2and_tu ringampere_and_rdna2_support_it.html

AlienALX
02-09-20, 05:29 PM
https://twitter.com/billykhan/status/1301129891035914240

ID's lead programmer says that 8gb will be the minimum VRAM needed soon. He also tweeted that you should buy a card "with as much on as you can afford" for the next gen games.

So the 3070 is already on borrowed time, and the sodding thing hasn't even come out yet LOL.

What did I say? about two hours ago? No trickery can make VRAM appear that is not there.

NeverBackDown
02-09-20, 06:42 PM
https://twitter.com/billykhan/status/1301129891035914240

ID's lead programmer says that 8gb will be the minimum VRAM needed soon. He also tweeted that you should buy a card "with as much on as you can afford" for the next gen games.

So the 3070 is already on borrowed time, and the sodding thing hasn't even come out yet LOL.

What did I say? about two hours ago? No trickery can make VRAM appear that is not there.

Want to bet there's a way?

Called, optimization! Whether through pipelines or game design.
At a certain point yes it's not enough, but it can definitely go a long long way. Especially game design. It's a rather major factor into the tech requirements of any game.

Dicehunter
02-09-20, 07:07 PM
Sales of Oculus headsets stopped in Germany, Likely due to Facebook violating GDPR, More countries need to do this, Stop Zuckerturd from over reaching.

Will have to use Google translate if you don't speak German.

https://www.heise.de/news/VR-Headsets-von-Oculus-werden-nicht-mehr-in-Deutschland-verkauft-4883905.html

AlienALX
02-09-20, 07:47 PM
Want to bet there's a way?

Called, optimization! Whether through pipelines or game design.
At a certain point yes it's not enough, but it can definitely go a long long way. Especially game design. It's a rather major factor into the tech requirements of any game.

There may well be a way, but you try telling a company they need to spend a load extra for a PC game.

They will make the game to fit on the console, and work with its specs. If they add in a ton of extras after the fact like they did with RDR2? you will need more VRAM.

8gb entry level does not surprise me in the slightest. Especially now we know the specs of the consoles.

Dicehunter
03-09-20, 05:54 PM
Depending on what AMD bring with Big Navi, This from Nvidia is a massive feature for me, DLSS 2.1 for VR -

What kind of advancements can we expect from DLSS? Most people were expecting a DLSS 3.0, or, at the very least, something like DLSS 2.1. Are you going to keep improving DLSS and offer support for more games while maintaining the same version?DLSS SDK 2.1 is out and it includes three updates:

- New ultra performance mode for 8K gaming. Delivers 8K gaming on GeForce RTX 3090 with a new 9x scaling option.

- VR support. DLSS is now supported for VR titles.

- Dynamic resolution support. The input buffer can change dimensions from frame to frame while the output size remains fixed. If the rendering engine supports dynamic resolution, DLSS can be used to perform the required upscale to the display resolution.
Source https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/ilhao8/nvidia_rtx_30series_you_asked_we_answered/

Warchild
03-09-20, 06:37 PM
oh wow... more goodies. Now 120hz with that running! :D

NeverBackDown
04-09-20, 10:48 PM
Total War Troy had a tech blog if anyone is interested about the improvements to the engine and it's graphical updates. A light easy read.


https://www.totalwar.com/blog/ten-tech-improvements-in-a-total-war-saga-troy/

AlienALX
04-09-20, 10:52 PM
I had to stop using VR :(

I had never worn my headset for as long as I did playing HL Alyx. Sadly when I took it off all I could see was screen door for about three hours. I may try my close up glasses but if it persists I'm out.

Gutted, because the game is absolutely incredible.

WYP
04-09-20, 11:21 PM
Total War Troy had a tech blog if anyone is interested about the improvements to the engine and it's graphical updates. A light easy read.


https://www.totalwar.com/blog/ten-tech-improvements-in-a-total-war-saga-troy/

Troy is a strange release tech-wise. It has some new stuff but it has also regressed in some ways. TAA was a great addition to Total War: Three Kingdoms. While some do prefer MSAA, it's too demanding in most cases, and TAA is often a lot better than FXAA or no AA.

That was still an interesting read though. I wonder what's coming with the next big Total War release.

NeverBackDown
05-09-20, 02:15 AM
Troy is a strange release tech-wise. It has some new stuff but it has also regressed in some ways. TAA was a great addition to Total War: Three Kingdoms. While some do prefer MSAA, it's too demanding in most cases, and TAA is often a lot better than FXAA or no AA.

That was still an interesting read though. I wonder what's coming with the next big Total War release.

TAA was introduced because they removed mGPU support. It just does not play well with mGPUs when they had a blog about that back before 3k launched. It was probably one of the things not ported over to the engine due to time or money constraints.

Troy is based on Warhammer 2's engine and while it was updated and took some elements from 3k on the technical side, I'm sure TAA was lower on the priority than optimization of the game, as Warhammer 2 isn't exactly known for fantastic performance, and consider Saga titles have lower budgets. I believe this was also CA Sofia's first game launch and were probably more stressed out about it working rather than TAA :D.
All this explains the progressions and regressions of Troy in some aspects.

Though I have no idea if Troy works with mGPU. Without TAA it may be plausible. Though the game is still CPU bound heavily so you won't likely see much improvement.

Dicehunter
05-09-20, 05:25 AM
Corsair are bringing out cables for their existing modular PSU's for Nvidia's new GPU's, A single cable that connects to 2 x 8-pin PCI-E power sockets, Looks pretty clean instead of having 2 x individual power cables trailing off the included adapter that Nvidia supply.


https://corsairhowto.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Nvidia-12-pin-psu-cable-2.2-1024x774.jpg

Source - https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/blog/prepare-for-nvidia-30-series

Avet
06-09-20, 06:36 PM
AMD is branching out... Should Nvidia be scared?

https://www.techspot.com/news/86650-amd-strikes-back-nvidia-releasing-bicycles.html

Warchild
06-09-20, 07:47 PM
AMD is branching out... Should Nvidia be scared?

https://www.techspot.com/news/86650-amd-strikes-back-nvidia-releasing-bicycles.html

Looks like Shocks designed back in the 90s. Ive seen a raleigh activator II look more worthwhile than that. haha
Clearly its just some generic brand that we see everywhere with a sticker.

Dicehunter
07-09-20, 01:17 PM
Apparently AMD will unveil a 16GB big Navi card next month priced at $549, Where it sits in terms of performance compared to the 3070 and 3080 are as of right now unknown obviously.

https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/joao-silva/amd-set-to-fight-nvidia-rtx-30-series-with-aggressively-priced-16gb-graphics-cards/

Warchild
07-09-20, 01:56 PM
Apparently AMD will unveil a 16GB big Navi card next month priced at $549, Where it sits in terms of performance compared to the 3070 and 3080 are as of right now unknown obviously.

https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/joao-silva/amd-set-to-fight-nvidia-rtx-30-series-with-aggressively-priced-16gb-graphics-cards/

Thats gonna need to be a 3070 killer then given the aggressive price of Nvidia. We say "nvidia killer" so many times, and its never lived up to its hype.

As long as its on par with these cards, we will forever have compeitition or competitive pricing. AMD promised us big on the CPU's and they delivered. Lets hope they continue that with the GPU market.

Dicehunter
07-09-20, 03:09 PM
Thats gonna need to be a 3070 killer then given the aggressive price of Nvidia. We say "nvidia killer" so many times, and its never lived up to its hype.

As long as its on par with these cards, we will forever have compeitition or competitive pricing. AMD promised us big on the CPU's and they delivered. Lets hope they continue that with the GPU market.


If its performance is smack dab in the middle of a 3070 and 3080 then that price is great and AMD will hopefully shift a fair few, I'll be getting one to play around with :)

Avet
08-09-20, 08:33 AM
Already sold out.
https://videocardz.com/newz/bykski-has-the-first-water-block-for-geforce-rtx-3080-and-rtx-3090-founders-edition

Warchild
08-09-20, 08:37 AM
Already sold out.
https://videocardz.com/newz/bykski-has-the-first-water-block-for-geforce-rtx-3080-and-rtx-3090-founders-edition

Good for the rest of the founders owners. It looks hideous. At least there will be more stock for the other blocks now.

tgrech
08-09-20, 08:38 AM
Everyone seen the Xbox Series S news? $299

https://www.theverge.com/2020/9/8/21426934/microsoft-xbox-series-x-announcement-price

https://i.gyazo.com/f6256d91d9f5591cdfe6edc4865436b4.png

g0ggles1994
09-09-20, 09:46 AM
https://twitter.com/AzorFrank/status/1303492877989879810

Warchild
09-09-20, 09:54 AM
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-super-ti-could-feature-4864-cuda-cores

Rumours of a 3060Ti or Super

Dicehunter
09-09-20, 10:13 AM
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-super-ti-could-feature-4864-cuda-cores

Rumours of a 3060Ti or Super


This is precisely why I would not get a 3000 series card at launch, Too many rumours of higher VRAM versions of the 3080 and also 3080 Ti.

Avet
09-09-20, 11:14 AM
Not again... :(
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/75052/geforce-rtx-3080-ethereum-mining-beast-3-4x-better-than-2080/index.html

Warchild
09-09-20, 02:43 PM
Not again... :(
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/75052/geforce-rtx-3080-ethereum-mining-beast-3-4x-better-than-2080/index.html

They shouldnt be allowed to make so many purchases.

Dicehunter
09-09-20, 03:28 PM
They shouldnt be allowed to make so many purchases.

AFAIK it's limited to 2 per house hold and/or per customer at most retailers and Nvidia's own store.

AlienALX
09-09-20, 03:37 PM
Mmm, yummy big braiding and heat shrink.

I knew those cables would look like dog toffee.

tgrech
09-09-20, 04:14 PM
RDNA2 and Ryzen launch dates released

https://twitter.com/AMD/status/1303727083747766274?s=19

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/bKERI48p1-yLX2SSJfsO-YAlKXeTzQ5ZKaen7Ww8kWU/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/EhfE2vWXkAIpf3s.jpg%3Alarge

KingNosser
09-09-20, 04:16 PM
well it's something at least but I want info give us the details where is the fine print :D

Warchild
09-09-20, 04:54 PM
AFAIK it's limited to 2 per house hold and/or per customer at most retailers and Nvidia's own store.

Not in china.

They are getting them pre release so none of those rules apply.

looz
10-09-20, 03:12 AM
Not sure if this is in the know already, but a local tech tuber spilled the beans that 3000 series reviews are coming out on the 14th.

Dicehunter
10-09-20, 02:07 PM
Someone on Reddit that works for FedEx in the US posted this image, Considering Facebooks VR event is coming up this could be the new Quest 2.


https://i.redd.it/zmvfbfp5fbm51.jpg

NeverBackDown
10-09-20, 04:59 PM
Found a research article (article is talking about the research, link is in article though) talking about the problems of thermodynamics in microchips. Basically how it's economically wasteful of natural resources (like water) to cool microchips.

It's a new way of cooling down chips. By making microchannels underneath the die/substrate over the hot areas of say a CPU and allowing water to flow directly over those areas. Initial research has shown 50x greater efficiency which reduces the need for massive water cooling setups in data centers or super computers.

More efficient cooling means less waste of consumer AIOs(you can use smaller ones for same affect) which means less materials used from coolant to nickel, etc. And then obviously for the aforementioned data centers.

https://www.inverse.com/innovation/self-cooling-microchip-moores-law

Avet
10-09-20, 08:41 PM
Found a research article (article is talking about the research, link is in article though) talking about the problems of thermodynamics in microchips. Basically how it's economically wasteful of natural resources (like water) to cool microchips.

It's a new way of cooling down chips. By making microchannels underneath the die/substrate over the hot areas of say a CPU and allowing water to flow directly over those areas. Initial research has shown 50x greater efficiency which reduces the need for massive water cooling setups in data centers or super computers.

More efficient cooling means less waste of consumer AIOs(you can use smaller ones for same affect) which means less materials used from coolant to nickel, etc. And then obviously for the aforementioned data centers.

https://www.inverse.com/innovation/self-cooling-microchip-moores-law
Silicone is very bad at transfering heat. That is why Intel sanded 10900K die. The more substrate you bypass the better cooling effect.

looz
11-09-20, 01:41 AM
No silicone in CPUs, they're all natty. :D

Dicehunter
11-09-20, 06:55 PM
If this is true it's looking quite promising for the 3080 being on average 24% faster than the 2080 Ti especially with it's £649 price tag.

Firestrike graphics score of 42,000 against a 2080 Ti's score of 34,000, The 2080 Ti score lines up with a stock 2080 Ti so here's hoping.

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-synthetic-and-gaming-performance-leaked

AlienALX
11-09-20, 08:27 PM
If this is true it's looking quite promising for the 3080 being on average 24% faster than the 2080 Ti especially with it's £649 price tag.

Firestrike graphics score of 42,000 against a 2080 Ti's score of 34,000, The 2080 Ti score lines up with a stock 2080 Ti so here's hoping.

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-synthetic-and-gaming-performance-leaked

As pointed out to me that isn't what it says. Apparently the 2080Ti is 24% slower. So, by maffs that makes the 3080 around 32% faster with a 28% TDP increase.

AlienALX
11-09-20, 08:51 PM
What happens if you give a 2080Ti 320w.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=ADFiy6U2LAg&feature=emb_logo

AlienALX
11-09-20, 08:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYV4muLkbss&feature=emb_logo

Big Navi
256Bit bus
128MB infinite cache

5:40 and on.

AlienALX
12-09-20, 12:13 AM
3080 benchmarks and reviews delayed until the day before launch.

They did this with Turing too.

Dicehunter
12-09-20, 07:08 AM
Rumour of a discless Xbox Series X.



https://www.gamesradar.com/xbox-series-v-is-a-rumoured-all-digital-series-x/?utm_content=bufferfa3c9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_grfb

Warchild
12-09-20, 08:31 AM
Rumour of a discless Xbox Series X.



https://www.gamesradar.com/xbox-series-v-is-a-rumoured-all-digital-series-x/?utm_content=bufferfa3c9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_grfb

Didnt they confirm that already long ago? just omitted the naming.

Dicehunter
12-09-20, 10:46 AM
Didnt they confirm that already long ago? just omitted the naming.


I think that was the Xbox Series S that was rumoured to be digital only, Not the full fat series X.

Warchild
12-09-20, 10:56 AM
I think that was the Xbox Series S that was rumoured to be digital only, Not the full fat series X.

My understanding was that both versions had a discless variant. Both had been confirmed, but only the Series S had been officially named. It made no sense to me that the Series X would not get a discless version with MS are pushing Xb Game pass so much.

I never buy physical copies, nor do I want someone elses pre-owned copy. Nice not to have drawers or shelves full of clutter.

Dicehunter
12-09-20, 11:30 AM
My understanding was that both versions had a discless variant. Both had been confirmed, but only the Series S had been officially named. It made no sense to me that the Series X would not get a discless version with MS are pushing Xb Game pass so much.

I never buy physical copies, nor do I want someone elses pre-owned copy. Nice not to have drawers or shelves full of clutter.


Indeed, My place is small enough as it is, I'll be getting the PS5 Digital version, Don't really need an XBSX with all titles coming to PC.

Warchild
12-09-20, 11:34 AM
Indeed, My place is small enough as it is, I'll be getting the PS5 Digital version, Don't really need an XBSX with all titles coming to PC.

Will be PS for me too. XB doesnt interest me at all. My XbX is nothing more than netflix with atmos surround sound since I have to use it to utilise the samsung K960 surround.

NeverBackDown
12-09-20, 05:23 PM
Sony announces PS5 event.
"Tune in live on Twitch or YouTube this Wednesday, September 16 at 1pm PDT / 9pm BST / 10pm CEST to see what’s next for PS5."

Only mentions launch games as the topic of info. A 40 minute show.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.playstation.com/2020/09/12/watch-live-playstation-5-showcase-on-wednesday-september-16/amp/

Kleptobot
14-09-20, 04:51 AM
And Nvidia has agreed to purchase ARM, regulatory approval still required.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-13/nvidia-buys-softbank-s-arm-for-40-billion-in-biggest-chip-deal

Dicehunter
14-09-20, 11:40 AM
Oculus Quest 2 video "accidentally" leaked -

_b8xf2DpAMk


r4EPMxJiJRQ

Avet
14-09-20, 03:28 PM
This is a miracle. :)

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/75150/scientists-may-have-just-found-the-cure-for-hangover/index.html

Dicehunter
14-09-20, 08:01 PM
Facebook have now disclosed that there are various levels of restrictions but in general if you lose access to your Facebook account due to "violating community guidelines" which seem to change by the hour, You will lose access not just to your Oculus library but to your Oculus hardware.


https://www.roadtovr.com/fake-facebook-account-oculus-headset-community-standards/

Dark NighT
14-09-20, 08:06 PM
Facebook have now disclosed that there are various levels of restrictions but in general if you lose access to your Facebook account due to "violating community guidelines" which seem to change by the hour, You will lose access not just to your Oculus library but to your Oculus hardware.


https://www.roadtovr.com/fake-facebook-account-oculus-headset-community-standards/


Wow and people still just go meh, whatever and accept this as its nothing, Facebook acting like, bend over now or we take away your fancy headset, disgusting.

Dicehunter
14-09-20, 09:04 PM
Wow and people still just go meh, whatever and accept this as its nothing, Facebook acting like, bend over now or we take away your fancy headset, disgusting.

Sadly that's the modern world, Most people can't see further than their own noses, Also the fact that Facebook have run many psychological tests on their user base is just beyond sick and highly disturbing, Zuckerstickofturd is a sick man.

tgrech
15-09-20, 12:35 PM
Just a little deal, MGSV definitive collection for a fiver

https://www.indiegala.com/store/game/metal-gear-solid-v-the-definitive-experience/132479

Avet
16-09-20, 08:36 AM
Jensen must be boiling unther all that leather. :)

https://www.techpowerup.com/272223/amd-ceo-dr-lisa-su-to-receive-semiconductor-industrys-top-honor

Warchild
16-09-20, 08:39 AM
Jensen must be boiling unther all that leather. :)

https://www.techpowerup.com/272223/amd-ceo-dr-lisa-su-to-receive-semiconductor-industrys-top-honor

She got uninvited to the family thanks giving dinner.

AlienALX
16-09-20, 12:37 PM
All of the 3080s have gone up in price on OCUK before the pre order is even open.

Some not by much. Others have gone up £50 or more.

https://i.imgur.com/kiOoYg3.jpg

Same old, same old.

Warchild
16-09-20, 01:00 PM
All of the 3080s have gone up in price on OCUK before the pre order is even open.

Some not by much. Others have gone up £50 or more.

https://i.imgur.com/kiOoYg3.jpg

Same old, same old.

Price of living in UK then I guess. Norway has reduced the price. Converts to £684

Dicehunter
16-09-20, 01:52 PM
All of the 3080s have gone up in price on OCUK before the pre order is even open.

Some not by much. Others have gone up £50 or more.

https://i.imgur.com/kiOoYg3.jpg

Same old, same old.


OCUK are price gougers, I stopped buying from them some time ago, Very greedy company.

Warchild
16-09-20, 02:00 PM
OCUK are price gougers, I stopped buying from them some time ago, Very greedy company.

My point was that all I keep hearing is how everyone will see prices pushed up, greedy nvidia etc etc

Well my example above just shows its not all true. The price has been reduced. As too with the 3070. So its not all doom and gloom.

This could be due to the imminent 6000series card, but regardless. AMD is helping the market spiral too far out of control. And we need that.

AlienALX
16-09-20, 02:04 PM
OCUK are price gougers, I stopped buying from them some time ago, Very greedy company.

They all do it mate. Every single one of them.

As soon as Scan sees OCUK's pricing they will up theirs, ad infinium.


They will only get more and more expensive. TBH I am gutted Tom is on the IOW and Mark in Ireland, or I'd take my KP there for some overclocked action. However, I suspect that with the card I got there is barely anything in it at all.

Whether the 3080 will overclock better later on? no idea.

At £650 for the FE it seems reasonable. Only that isn't what is going on. That is the bait.

tgrech
16-09-20, 02:04 PM
Yeah OCUK are known to preemptively raise prices when they expect low availability (Or have successfully implied low availability prior to launch, which iirc they have done previously on launch's that didn't actually end up being low availability). But yeah they all end matching any rises

AlienALX
16-09-20, 02:06 PM
Yeah OCUK are known to preemptively raise prices when they expect low availability (Or have successfully implied low availability prior to launch, which iirc they have done previously on launch's that didn't actually end up being low availability)

Scan are usually always more expensive. When I priced up my KP Scan wanted £150 more. At £1850. When Covid kicked it was closer to two grand.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-kngpn-gaming-11gb-gddr6-ray-tracing-graphics-card-4352-core-1350mhz-gpu-177

It's now at the price I paid for it.

Dicehunter
16-09-20, 03:47 PM
So apparently the Index, Vive and Vive Pro have had finger tracking available all along using their built in cameras, It's only now been enabled in a free VR game called Neos available on Steam.

https://store.steampowered.com/newshub/app/740250/view/2873815014878625258/

NeverBackDown
16-09-20, 08:45 PM
Nov 12th PS5 Launch
$399 for Digitial Edition
$499 for Blu Ray edition

and y'all told me it'd be a "small" price difference ;)


EDIT: GOW RAGNAROK CONFIRMED 2021.. I AM HYPED!

Greenback
16-09-20, 08:55 PM
Nov 12th PS5 Launch
$399 for Digitial Edition
$499 for Blu Ray edition

and y'all told me it'd be a "small" price difference ;)


EDIT: GOW RAGNAROK CONFIRMED 2021.. I AM HYPED!

Just seen the Xbox series S only has 512GB hdd considering the size of games there's a possible leaked Toshiba 1TB drive for £219, starting to think the non-digital version may work out the cheapest

Dicehunter
16-09-20, 09:00 PM
Nov 12th PS5 Launch
$399 for Digitial Edition
$499 for Blu Ray edition

and y'all told me it'd be a "small" price difference ;)


EDIT: GOW RAGNAROK CONFIRMED 2021.. I AM HYPED!


Oh well that just made my purchasing decision real easy, Absolutely love GoW, PS5 digital edition will be in my Christmas stocking ^_^

NeverBackDown
16-09-20, 09:01 PM
Just seen the Xbox series S only has 512GB hdd considering the size of games there's a possible leaked Toshiba 1TB drive for £219, starting to think the non-digital version may work out the cheapest

Xbox uses a proprietary ssd format and can only buy the official Xbox Expansion drive. Release date unknown last I remember and considering it's MS it'll likely cost more than just a standard m.2 ssd.

Oh well that just made my purchasing decision real easy, Absolutely love GoW, PS5 digital edition will be in my Christmas stocking ^_^

that's a big ol stocking you got Dice :D
But jokes aside it pretty much made my decision too. I was between a 3080/3070 or a PS5. Pretty much getting the console for one game alone. Totally worth it. The current GOW is easily one of the best games I've ever played

Dicehunter
16-09-20, 09:08 PM
that's a big ol stocking you got Dice :D
But jokes aside it pretty much made my decision too. I was between a 3080/3070 or a PS5. Pretty much getting the console for one game alone. Totally worth it. The current GOW is easily one of the best games I've ever played

Damn right, 6900XT and PS5 D.E, Going to be an all AMD Christmas ^_^

I've played through GoW easily 5+ times and once on the hardest difficulty, Love it, That damn valkyrie queen is something I've never been able to get past though even on easy.

Warchild
16-09-20, 09:18 PM
Oh well that just made my purchasing decision real easy, Absolutely love GoW, PS5 digital edition will be in my Christmas stocking ^_^

yep same here. And ill get the old one since im told its also really good. I assume they will be linked, so nice not to miss out on anything.

Dicehunter
16-09-20, 09:41 PM
yep same here. And ill get the old one since im told its also really good. I assume they will be linked, so nice not to miss out on anything.


Yep both linked, Gorgeous game and it takes place in Norway thousands of years ago battling Æsir, Vanir, Jötnar, Various gods etc... really good game and Christopher Judge i.e Teal'c from Stargate SG1 voices Kratos, Truly superb performance.

Warchild
16-09-20, 09:56 PM
Yep both linked, Gorgeous game and it takes place in Norway thousands of years ago battling Æsir, Vanir, Jötnar, Various gods etc... really good game and Christopher Judge i.e Teal'c from Stargate SG1 voices Kratos, Truly superb performance.

ill be running around saying "been there" "ooh ive seen that in RL" "gonna check out that place tomorrow in the car" :D

Dicehunter
18-09-20, 01:56 AM
A well known "leaker" has said Navi 21, 6900XT, Will have 16GB VRAM and Navi 22, Which I'm guessing is the 6800XT, Will have 12GB VRAM.


https://twitter.com/_rogame/status/1306655000454725636

Warchild
18-09-20, 12:22 PM
Gigabyte confirms 20gb 3080 is coming.

https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-confirms-geforce-rtx-3060-8gb-rtx-3070-16gb-and-rtx-3080-20gb


Interesting table. Rumoured 3080 "S" launch is after big navi

AlienALX
18-09-20, 12:43 PM
bug navi

:d

10/10

BTW I noticed Steve @ GN dared to say "The 10gb doesn't matter it's the bandwidth".

BS ! they said that about Fury X.

Dicehunter
18-09-20, 02:59 PM
Gigabyte confirms 20gb 3080 is coming.

https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-confirms-geforce-rtx-3060-8gb-rtx-3070-16gb-and-rtx-3080-20gb


Interesting table. Rumoured 3080 "S" launch is after big navi


This is precisely why I will not get a 3080 for myself, A 3080 Ti is all but guaranteed as there is too much space between the 3080 and 3090 and then comes all the various 3070's and 3080's with varying amounts of VRAM and the inevitable "Super" line up.


:d

10/10

BTW I noticed Steve @ GN dared to say "The 10gb doesn't matter it's the bandwidth".

BS ! they said that about Fury X.


To be fair the 3080 should not be looked at as a 4K card by anyone, Yes it can do it quite well in a lot of games but looking at it from a VRAM perspective it should be viewed as a 1440P card as many devs have said cards are going to need a fair bit more memory passed 1440P going forward.

AlienALX
18-09-20, 03:15 PM
Well it gets bottlenecked by pretty much every CPU on earth at 1440p.

It's certainly not a 4k 60 card with RT. I guess that will be the 3090 and yeah we know what that will cost.

Hearing more rumblings about 20gb cards coming after big Navi today.

Dicehunter
19-09-20, 12:07 AM
A proper Wizarding World game i.e Harry Potter universe, Open-world action RPG is coming out on PC and next gen consoles, Hogwarts Legacy.


BsC-Rl9GYy0

NeverBackDown
19-09-20, 01:28 AM
A proper Wizarding World game i.e Harry Potter universe, Open-world action RPG is coming out on PC and next gen consoles, Hogwarts Legacy.


BsC-Rl9GYy0

When I first saw this I was honestly surprised at how good it looked. The livestream chat went from the dumb spam "rip xbox" to actual people saying this looked fun.

Definitely on my watch list. I'm not even a HP fan so it'll be interesting^_^

Dicehunter
21-09-20, 02:30 AM
Never played any of the Life is Strange series but I've heard good things, Episode 1 of Life is Strange 2 is now free -

https://store.steampowered.com/app/532210/Life_is_Strange_2/

Warchild
21-09-20, 07:23 AM
Never played any of the Life is Strange series but I've heard good things, Episode 1 of Life is Strange 2 is now free -

https://store.steampowered.com/app/532210/Life_is_Strange_2/

Ive played them all, including the new tell me why. Fantastic games with multiple choices all of which present different endings. Far better than any Telltale series if you ask me.

tgrech
21-09-20, 01:08 PM
Microsoft buys Bethesda:

MS now releasing two PS5 timed exclusives, and a bucket load of cash changing hands

https://twitter.com/XboxP3/status/1308028751796551680
https://i.gyazo.com/bde1d2ff0265882860af004e96443ebd.png

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1308028385877204993
https://i.gyazo.com/6531173380bd116c8c33f65661b0b5fa.png

looz
21-09-20, 01:38 PM
Wow, Bethesda finally has access to competent engineers. :-P

Dicehunter
21-09-20, 01:55 PM
MS now releasing two PS5 timed exclusives

Which ones ?

On a side note, Leaked 3090 benchmarks show it's roughly 20% faster than a 3080 for double the money, Total bargain...

https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/joao-silva/rtx-3090-leaked-benchmarks-show-up-to-20-faster-performance-than-rtx-3080/

AlienALX
21-09-20, 01:58 PM
That could be about the best news I have heard in bloody YEARS.

Maybe M$ can actually get a handle on Fallout and Skyrim games so they don't take 7 years to come out. And will use a proper graphics engine instead of the cack that FO4 used.

tgrech
21-09-20, 02:09 PM
Which ones ?


Deathloop and Ghostwire: Tokyo I believe

AlienALX
21-09-20, 03:30 PM
Football manager 2020, Watchdogs 2 and another game free on Epic til the 24th, RC Tycoon 3 coming on the 24th

Warchild
21-09-20, 03:36 PM
Football manager 2020, Watchdogs 2 and another game free on Epic til the 24th, RC Tycoon 3 coming on the 24th

Think WYP already made a post on it. :)

AlienALX
21-09-20, 07:01 PM
30 series prices soaring on OCUK.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-geforce-rtx-3090-rog-strix-gaming-oc-24gb-gddr6x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-44j-as.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gigabyte-aorus-geforce-rtx-3090-xtreme-24gb-gddr6x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-1by-gi.html

Strix 3070 now costs more than a 3080 FE.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-geforce-rtx-3070-rog-strix-oc-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-44r-as.html

Warchild
21-09-20, 07:14 PM
30 series prices soaring on OCUK.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-geforce-rtx-3090-rog-strix-gaming-oc-24gb-gddr6x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-44j-as.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gigabyte-aorus-geforce-rtx-3090-xtreme-24gb-gddr6x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-1by-gi.html

Strix 3070 now costs more than a 3080 FE.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-geforce-rtx-3070-rog-strix-oc-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-44r-as.html

Norwegian pricing still close to MMRP

AlienALX
21-09-20, 09:08 PM
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-teclab-review-leaked/

Dicehunter
22-09-20, 11:06 AM
Apparently someone on the Nvidia Reddit got their hands on an MSI Gaming X Trio 3090, A 20% uplift from a 3080 on average for "only" double the money, Bargain....

https://i.ibb.co/JnmvyJF/IMG-3154.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/Bt61cqp/3090-Proof.jpg



(UPDATED with Port Royal, VRmark Blue Room, and OpenVR benchmarks)


Hey guys. I posted this stuff at ResetEra but I figured I'd do it here too since the 3090 is launching this week and I'm sure some people are deciding between that and the 3080.

And here are some scores from benchmarks I've run, which you can compare to 3080 reviews:


Time Spy (graphics): 20569
Time Spy Extreme (graphics): 10560
Port Royal: 13613 (63.03 fps)
Blue Room: 6324 (137.87 fps)
OpenVR: 84.15 fps (Valve Index)


Assassin's Creed Odyssey (Maxed)
3840x2160: 71
2560x1440: 84 (this feels very CPU bottlenecked)


Horizon Zero Dawn (Ultimate Quality)
3840x2160: 86
2560x1440: 123


Red Dead Redemption II (Maxed/No MSAA)
3840x2160: 66
2560x1440: 90


Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Maxed/DLSS/No RT)
3840x2160: 112
2560x1440: 133


Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Maxed/DLSS/RT)
3840x2160: 82
2560x1440: 108


I've also run Control through its paces. Maxed with DLSS rendering at 2560x1440, performance hovers around 55-70 depending on the room/action. With DLSS rendering at 1920x1080, numbers are closer to the 80-95 fps range.


The rest of my system is due for an upgrade next year, but I have an i7-8086K @ 5.1 GHz with 32GB of 2666MHz RAM.

I've managed a minor overclock of +75 Core, +200 Memory.


In terms of temps, at full load, I'm seeing around 59°-63° in a fully air-cooled Corsair 1000D case. With fans fully ramped up in Afterburner, it's still quieter than my PS4 Pro :)
Source - https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/ix9zcg/early_msi_geforce_rtx_3090_gaming_x_trio/

AlienALX
22-09-20, 01:21 PM
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/newegg-mistakenly-lists-pricing-for-custom-geforce-rtx-3090-gpus?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dlvr.it

g0ggles1994
22-09-20, 01:25 PM
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/newegg-mistakenly-lists-pricing-for-custom-geforce-rtx-3090-gpus?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dlvr.it
oof! Hell no!

AlienALX
22-09-20, 01:27 PM
oof! Hell no!

I'm not posting my thoughts any more. Just links. That way people can send their complaints to a brick wall.

Dicehunter
22-09-20, 02:34 PM
Pretty cool little thunderbolt device from Corsair -



xP46x7FaC8s

AlienALX
22-09-20, 03:33 PM
https://www.techpowerup.com/272420/the-reason-why-nvidias-geforce-rtx-3080-gpu-uses-19-gbps-gddr6x-memory-and-not-faster-variants

The conclusion drawn here is that the current chips are limited by temperature only, as the card is pretty hot, and that is why NVIDIA doesn't use the faster GDDR6X variant.

Dicehunter
22-09-20, 03:39 PM
https://www.techpowerup.com/272420/the-reason-why-nvidias-geforce-rtx-3080-gpu-uses-19-gbps-gddr6x-memory-and-not-faster-variants

The conclusion drawn here is that the current chips are limited by temperature only, as the card is pretty hot, and that is why NVIDIA doesn't use the faster GDDR6X variant.


I have an inkling we'll see the faster 21Gbps GDDR6X memory in the 3080 Ti FE that will have a re-designed cooler and PCB to space out the components a bit.

AlienALX
22-09-20, 03:39 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Avery78/status/1307765955888476162

#RX6000 whispers...(2/2)
New tech introductions -> NV
1. Lossless anti-aliasing
2. Nano-subsurface effect
3. A NCSN type tech (Noise Conditional Score Network) introducing training functions
[unverified + salt]

Could 3 be their answer to DLSS?

AlienALX
22-09-20, 03:40 PM
I have an inkling we'll see the faster 21Gbps GDDR6X memory in the 3080 Ti FE that will have a re-designed cooler and PCB to space out the components a bit.

They would need to get the TGP down. So maybe the "3080Ti" would be better thanks to father time.

Warchild
22-09-20, 03:56 PM
They would need to get the TGP down. So maybe the "3080Ti" would be better thanks to father time.

If a 3090 is only 10% faster than a 3080 I dont see the point of a 3080ti and where it would sit, unless we started talking about shader counts etc..

I guess we won't know until all products are in. Seems like the 3080 20gb is the go to card right now, but 20gb is gonna push up the price immensely thats for sure.

AlienALX
22-09-20, 04:00 PM
If a 3090 is only 10% faster than a 3080 I dont see the point of a 3080ti and where it would sit, unless we started talking about shader counts etc..

I guess we won't know until all products are in. Seems like the 3080 20gb is the go to card right now, but 20gb is gonna push up the price immensely thats for sure.

They may need an answer to AMD, that is where your Ti and Super will come in.

Obviously binning and yields will improve also, so it's bound to get another set of cards before they move on. Always does.

Warchild
22-09-20, 04:09 PM
They may need an answer to AMD, that is where your Ti and Super will come in.

Obviously binning and yields will improve also, so it's bound to get another set of cards before they move on. Always does.

What could happen is a 3090Ti also. But otherwise the gap between a 3080 and 3090 is so slim (based on leaks) that right now, it seems there is no place for a 3080ti. But its always just speculation at this point.

Dicehunter
22-09-20, 04:16 PM
What could happen is a 3090Ti also. But otherwise the gap between a 3080 and 3090 is so slim (based on leaks) that right now, it seems there is no place for a 3080ti. But its always just speculation at this point.


I reckon they'll come out with the 3090 Black Edition once AMD show their hand featuring the full GA102 die as even the 3090 has 2 x SM's disabled apparently.

KingNosser
23-09-20, 07:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPEBbm22ovw

This guy got his 3090 early so posting it here, see some 8k video's from linus and such as well.

Warchild
23-09-20, 07:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPEBbm22ovw

This guy got his 3090 early so posting it here, see some 8k video's from linus and such as well.

Weird way to do benchmarks, and Cod on just 2 maps?
However, synthentically it behaves like a monster. 56% over the 2080ti is decent. But for the gaming (which I dont even know what he was attempting to achieve) 10 points in the map showing what? static images? if its 10% increase of the 2080ti, then its the Titan Z all over again. Massive flop. However, to me it looked like a truck load of bottlenecking in a game that isnt even worth being used as a benchmark when frames run so high on a mediocre GPU.

I can understand everyone downvoting his video. It doesnt give us much at all. If hes going to show the entire 3Dmark test, then show the GPU clocks/mem speed/temps etc. The 2080ti could be underclocked for all we know, or the 3090 overclocked to try and make it seem better than it actually is.

KingNosser
23-09-20, 07:57 AM
Yea the cod bench is just cause he likes that game i guess, for sure CPU/engine bound.

But it's a jump over the 3080 the linus 8k video wasn't bad, but idk who is going to spend 30k on a 8k TV to enjoy it, it is what it is :D

I think it'll be better to wait on the few reviewer's that get one to actually show real info on it, but it was the first benchmark i'd seen so thought it would be of some intrest :)

Dicehunter
23-09-20, 07:58 AM
Weird way to do benchmarks, and Cod on just 2 maps?
However, synthentically it behaves like a monster. 56% over the 2080ti is decent. But for the gaming (which I dont even know what he was attempting to achieve) 10 points in the map showing what? static images? if its 10% increase of the 2080ti, then its the Titan Z all over again. Massive flop. However, to me it looked like a truck load of bottlenecking in a game that isnt even worth being used as a benchmark when frames run so high on a mediocre GPU.

I can understand everyone downvoting his video. It doesnt give us much at all. If hes going to show the entire 3Dmark test, then show the GPU clocks/mem speed/temps etc. The 2080ti could be underclocked for all we know, or the 3090 overclocked to try and make it seem better than it actually is.


Personally think the 3090 is a bit of a waste of money compared to the 3080, Roughly 10-20% more perf, Based on other leaks as well, But double the price.

Warchild
23-09-20, 07:59 AM
Yea the cod bench is just cause he likes that game i guess, for sure CPU bound.

But it's a jump over the 3080 the linus 8k video wasn't bad, but idk who is going to spend 30k on a 8k TV to enjoy it, it is what it is :D

I think it'll be better to wait on the few reviewer's that get one to actually show real info on it.

I get that he has a card and perhaps he is worried to show details for fear of some retribution from Nvidia (you never know, since he has a 3090 through unofficial channels) but that side by side comparison is just comparing Apples to Orangutans.

KingNosser
23-09-20, 08:05 AM
Well the 8k linus gameplay video while not showing fps or benches does show it's capable but in some games like control not all the RTX settings were enabled so it's by no means perfect for 8k but it is actually doing 8k pretty decently to say the least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDUnSsx62j8

It should do crysis better than the 3080 i'd expect :P

Dicehunter
23-09-20, 09:18 AM
Well the 8k linus gameplay video while not showing fps or benches does show it's capable but in some games like control not all the RTX settings were enabled so it's by no means perfect for 8k but it is actually doing 8k pretty decently to say the least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDUnSsx62j8

It should do crysis better than the 3080 i'd expect :P


I remember when gaming at anything over 1280x720 was considered crazy ^_^

WYP
23-09-20, 03:09 PM
Folks, remember that Quick News is Quick News. take larger conversations to other threads and try not to go off-topic.

AlienALX
23-09-20, 03:30 PM
Personally think the 3090 is a bit of a waste of money compared to the 3080, Roughly 10-20% more perf, Based on other leaks as well, But double the price.

For the people it is intended for it will be a bargain, just like the 3080. Just not gamers. It was the same with the 2080Ti.

For rendering, content creation, transcoding ETC? that is the best part of Ampere.

The difference between Turing and Pascal for those things was also epic. In business related apps the 2060 KO was it? (the one with the 2080 disabled bits die) easily brushed aside a Titan XP.

There is a lot of technology in "Gaming" GPUs you will never even know about or use. Like many others Nvidia merged their lines into HEDT years ago. So certain "gaming" parts are now nothing but workstation and server class gear.

And in workstations the 3090 will be amazing.

AlienALX
23-09-20, 03:43 PM
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/new-nvidia-aib-roadmap-leaks-onlineshows-rtx-3080-20gb-and-is-listing-geforce-rtx-3060.html

WYP
23-09-20, 05:00 PM
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/new-nvidia-aib-roadmap-leaks-onlineshows-rtx-3080-20gb-and-is-listing-geforce-rtx-3060.html

We already have something up on this.

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/galax_roadmap_confirms_20gb_rtx_3080_models_and_rt x_3060_plans/1

Warchild
24-09-20, 12:12 PM
https://www.computerbase.de/2020-09/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ctd-abstuerze/

Many MANY users complaining about games crashing mid way with their 3080. Apparently most complaints stem from EVGA owners, but also include Zotac Trinity and MSI ventus cards.

AlienALX
24-09-20, 12:28 PM
https://www.computerbase.de/2020-09/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ctd-abstuerze/

Many MANY users complaining about games crashing mid way with their 3080. Apparently most complaints stem from EVGA owners, but also include Zotac Trinity and MSI ventus cards.

Probably PSU issues. Time will tell though I guess, but yeah I reckon it's PSU issues.

Dicehunter
26-09-20, 07:57 AM
Apparently many of the 3080 crashing issues stem from AIB's using cheaper components below reference spec on the power delivery/filtering -

x6bUUEEe-X8

Warchild
26-09-20, 08:41 AM
I thought there was something up with the components. I seem to follow Igorslab before reviews these days.

Dicehunter
26-09-20, 08:45 AM
I thought there was something up with the components. I seem to follow Igorslab before reviews these days.


Issues like these are why I no longer jump on launch day items ^_^

Tolemac
26-09-20, 08:51 AM
Issues like these are why I no longer jump on launch day items ^_^

It would appear that the only AIB cards that are up to spec are the ASUS ones "I never thought I would ever say that".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPFKS8jNNh0&t=1725s&ab_channel=ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking

Warchild
26-09-20, 09:05 AM
It would appear that the only AIB cards that are up to spec are the ASUS ones "I never thought I would ever say that".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPFKS8jNNh0&t=1725s&ab_channel=ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking

And some EVGA as shown by Jayz2cents. I assume OC3,FTW3 and kingpin will be fine, but the rest are probably cost cut.

LJJ (Leather jacket Jensen) must be loving the bad news right now on his 30cards. Poor launch, poor stock and now multiple AIB trying to go cheap on his product. In the end, it looks bad for him even if the founders have done everything right.


And on that note... Double OOPS!

Nvidia Cached emails leaked to random users (https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidias-store-appears-to-be-leaking-cached-emails-to-random-users/#:~:text=Nvidia's%20store%20appears%20to%20be%20le aking%20cached%20emails%20to%20random%20users,-By%20Wes%20Fenlon&text=Nvidia%20says%20it's%20investigating.&text=On%20Twitter%2C%20TechTeamGB%20posted%20an,Th ey%20wanted%20his%20RTX%203080.)

Greenback
26-09-20, 09:39 AM
What I found a worry in JZ's video was colorful saying they will send him a different card, does that mean they will remove all the ones like he had? (no). or they will send him a modded 1 and what you buy will not march what he reviews or more lightly they send him a more expensive SKU.
One of those times Asus tax could be value for money tax