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Warchild
25-06-18, 12:30 PM
BIOS tools have revealed that Z370 boards already have a setting for 8-cores.

http://tech-toniks.blogspot.com/2018/06/rumor-z370-and-h310-support-up-to-8.html?m=1

So the Z390s released are just rebranded 370s?

Dicehunter
25-06-18, 03:38 PM
So the Z390s released are just rebranded 370s?

Yep, Intel has pretty much confirmed Z370 is being re-branded as Z390, So everything is the same, Just a name change, Meaning 8 core coffee lake chips should work fine in existing Z370 mobos -

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/z390-chipset-now-rumored-to-get-rebranded-from-z370.html

WYP
25-06-18, 05:54 PM
Yep, Intel has pretty much confirmed Z370 is being re-branded as Z390, So everything is the same, Just a name change, Meaning 8 core coffee lake chips should work fine in existing Z370 mobos -

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/z390-chipset-now-rumored-to-get-rebranded-from-z370.html

Expect to hear my thoughs on this shortly.

Dicehunter
02-07-18, 01:50 AM
Vietnamese site put up a preorder for the new Nvidia cards, The 1180 apparently coming with 16GB of GDDR6 -

http://sg.h2gaming.vn/rog-strix-gtx-1180-16gb

http://sg.h2gaming.vn/uploads/ASUS_ROG_GTX_1180_16GB_GDDR6_HBM2.jpg

NeverBackDown
02-07-18, 05:03 AM
Vietnamese site put up a preorder for the new Nvidia cards, The 1180 apparently coming with 16GB of GDDR6 -

http://sg.h2gaming.vn/rog-strix-gtx-1180-16gb

http://sg.h2gaming.vn/uploads/ASUS_ROG_GTX_1180_16GB_GDDR6_HBM2.jpg

Probably TitanXp performance but at a lower price point and more efficient. I'd still wager though that it'll be around $800-900 in price because Nvidia and GDDR6.

Dicehunter
02-07-18, 07:39 PM
RGB power cable...because why not XD

Addicted PC RGB PSU cable (https://addictedpc.com).

bagoZNxAkv0

Warchild
02-07-18, 08:00 PM
RGB power cable...because why not XD

Addicted PC RGB PSU cable (https://addictedpc.com).

bagoZNxAkv0

not even worthy of posting in quick news. What a complete waste of time and money.

Dicehunter
02-07-18, 08:01 PM
not even worthy of posting in quick news. What a complete waste of time and money.

Personally I think it's a little distasteful, RGB when done right can look great but on the power cable, Nah, Getting into the cheap and tacky area now.

Warchild
02-07-18, 08:04 PM
Personally I think it's a little distasteful, RGB when done right can look great but on the power cable, Nah, Getting into the cheap and tacky area now.

This and that stupid RGB ATX power cable.

AngryGoldfish
02-07-18, 08:06 PM
I really don't understand why so many people think this is such an issue. It's a product like anything else. If you don't like it, don't buy it. You can whinge about it, sure, that's what the Internet is for, but some seem so frustrated by RGB that it's almost like it's an affront to PC hardware and PC enthusiasm as a whole. I just see like anything else I don't like.

Dicehunter
02-07-18, 08:10 PM
This and that stupid RGB ATX power cable.

I like the idea of light up ATX and PCI-E cables only IF it's done tastefully and blends in with a themed build i.e a Star Wars Sith build for instance with red and white lights.

I really don't understand why so many people think this is such an issue. It's a product like anything else. If you don't like it, don't buy it. You can whinge about it, sure, that's what the Internet is for, but some seem so frustrated by RGB that it's almost like it's an affront to PC hardware and PC enthusiasm as a whole. I just see like anything else I don't like.

Agreed.

Warchild
02-07-18, 08:12 PM
I really don't understand why so many people think this is such an issue. It's a product like anything else. If you don't like it, don't buy it. You can whinge about it, sure, that's what the Internet is for, but some seem so frustrated by RGB that it's almost like it's an affront to PC hardware and PC enthusiasm as a whole. I just see like anything else I don't like.

My thinking behind it is that if everything is RGB, the cost gets pushed up. For those who dont want it but want the product itself, they are stuck paying extra for a feature they dont want. Memory sticks are more expensive than ever, and now all have RGB. Why can't I have the same good sticks without it and pay less?

Its like we are going back to the 80s with everything neon covered or full of flashing lights.

Dicehunter
02-07-18, 08:14 PM
My thinking behind it is that if everything is RGB, the cost gets pushed up. For those who dont want it but want the product itself, they are stuck paying extra for a feature they dont want. Memory sticks are more expensive than ever, and now all have RGB. Why can't I have the same good sticks without it and pay less?

Its like we are going back to the 80s with everything neon covered or full of flashing lights.

I like neon, Reminds me of Blade runner ^_^

demonking
03-07-18, 02:48 PM
Rumours of l4d3 going around
http://www.ladbible.com/technology/gaming-is-valve-resurrecting-left-4-dead-20180703

g0ggles1994
03-07-18, 03:26 PM
I like neon, Reminds me of Blade runner ^_^


Same here. I would love to see a neon rig built in the style of Blade Runner.


I might do it myself at some point actually. I would get Roy's quote engraved into the case as well

Dicehunter
03-07-18, 09:06 PM
Nvidia Hotfix driver 398.46

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1061921/geforce-drivers/announcing-geforce-hotfix-driver-398-46/


Black Textures in Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus.
Driver branch [r398_35-3]


Same here. I would love to see a neon rig built in the style of Blade Runner.


I might do it myself at some point actually. I would get Roy's quote engraved into the case as well

That would be immense !!!

Warchild
04-07-18, 08:24 AM
Same here. I would love to see a neon rig built in the style of Blade Runner.


I might do it myself at some point actually. I would get Roy's quote engraved into the case as well

Giving me ideas for my 1000D build now. I always preferred Cold cathode tubes over LED strips.

g0ggles1994
05-07-18, 09:43 PM
Ryzen Embedded 5x5 systems coming from Sapphire

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/sapphire-amd-ryzen-v1000-apu,37408.html

Dicehunter
09-07-18, 08:33 PM
Monster Hunter World will have parity with consoles, Hate it when devs do this.

https://www.pcgamer.com/monster-hunter-world-pc-visuals-will-have-parity-with-console-versions/?utm_content=bufferdf419&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgamerfb

demonking
09-07-18, 08:40 PM
Monster Hunter World will have parity with consoles, Hate it when devs do this.

https://www.pcgamer.com/monster-hunter-world-pc-visuals-will-have-parity-with-console-versions/?utm_content=bufferdf419&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgamerfb

As much as that does suck I agree with them in when they say a good port is better. I bought dmc3 a few years back before steam had their customer service revamp and it was awful. Max res was 720p borderless and controller support was only half implemented. After 10 mins of trying the game asked for a refund,didnt get it cos Marcus from borderlands was still running customer service back then

AlienALX
09-07-18, 08:48 PM
Monster Hunter World will have parity with consoles, Hate it when devs do this.

https://www.pcgamer.com/monster-hunter-world-pc-visuals-will-have-parity-with-console-versions/?utm_content=bufferdf419&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgamerfb

Exactly what I have been talking about lately. Consoles, once again, holding back PC games. This is why it is not worth having a gaming PC. A grand for a GPU for that.

NeverBackDown
09-07-18, 11:41 PM
Monster Hunter World will have parity with consoles, Hate it when devs do this.

https://www.pcgamer.com/monster-hunter-world-pc-visuals-will-have-parity-with-console-versions/?utm_content=bufferdf419&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgamerfb

It's not a bad thing. What sucks is consoles are 30fps and aren't that great looking unless it's an IP title. If consoles could hit 60fps and look like a PC version of 1080p medium settings it wouldn't be a big issue.

Warchild
10-07-18, 06:49 AM
I'm at the point where I don't care anymore. If a game is immersive or enjoyable enough then I forget about the gfx completely. If anything I would much rather have smooth 120fps than a crisp (yet to me pointless) 4k image at <60fps

we were in a losing battle from the start. Consoles are where they make their money, now that it is so mainstream. Only the true dedicated devs who are passionate about their work make an effort to utilise PC components to its full potential. Others may enjoy it but make it good, others just make it passable.

I was testing Witcher 3 with SLI on custom (high/ultra) settings last night I had near 85% scaling with SLI as opposed to just 1 1080ti on 3440p. Can't remember the last AAA title that had something like that, which was developed with the PC community in mind.

This puts things into perspective for Ubisoft sales. Over 70% of their sales in the last three years are console. PC has growth but not enough for Devs to really dedicate more resources to.

NeverBackDown
10-07-18, 08:04 AM
The PC market has grown the most. That's a fact. The numbers you site need to be put into context.

The console market has grown but not as much as you would think. Most of the gamers are the same. They buy the new gen console. The PS3/Xbox both sold over 70 million units. The PS4 has already hit that target and the Xbox One has hit about 30 million units.

That's a loss of 40 million units as of now. Meaning (theoretically) 40 million people have moved to PC. Which would also explain it's massive growth. Since we both agree gaming market is growing it would be expected that something has grown, which would be the PC market as it is the fastest growing entertainment market in the world for a reason and it's almost 100% fueled by PC growth. It's a pretty linear trend.

So I disagree with your numbers and to be honest I have never seen those numbers anywhere even from Ubisoft. But PC is the factually the biggest growing market. It's also why more and more games these past few years are coming to PC. We are getting more and more every year for all platforms and that is because the PC market is growing and therefore profitable. So more companies are pushing there IP to PC. So much so they invested into there own stores to compete with Steam.

That's even before we take into account China. Who is a totally different market than anywhere else in the world and they are having absurd growth every year and will if not already be the biggest gaming market in the world. Alongside just being the biggest economy in the world in general but that's a different topic.

Warchild
10-07-18, 09:15 AM
The PC market has grown the most. That's a fact. The numbers you site need to be put into context.

The console market has grown but not as much as you would think. Most of the gamers are the same. They buy the new gen console. The PS3/Xbox both sold over 70 million units. The PS4 has already hit that target and the Xbox One has hit about 30 million units.

That's a loss of 40 million units as of now. Meaning (theoretically) 40 million people have moved to PC. Which would also explain it's massive growth. Since we both agree gaming market is growing it would be expected that something has grown, which would be the PC market as it is the fastest growing entertainment market in the world for a reason and it's almost 100% fueled by PC growth. It's a pretty linear trend.

So I disagree with your numbers and to be honest I have never seen those numbers anywhere even from Ubisoft. But PC is the factually the biggest growing market. It's also why more and more games these past few years are coming to PC. We are getting more and more every year for all platforms and that is because the PC market is growing and therefore profitable. So more companies are pushing there IP to PC. So much so they invested into there own stores to compete with Steam.

That's even before we take into account China. Who is a totally different market than anywhere else in the world and they are having absurd growth every year and will if not already be the biggest gaming market in the world. Alongside just being the biggest economy in the world in general but that's a different topic.



Of course, I'm not disputing what you say, PC growth was good. (taken from statista.com) You also need to consider some move from Xbox team to Playstation team and vice versa. The stats I posted were Ubisoft Game sales. What I was referring to is that while we are seeing more come to PC, the efforts behind developers vary from passionate to "lets make it good enough to profit". Many games are ports, and devs are often pushed to outrageous deadlines by publishers like EA, when you don't have resources you can only do so much. Releasing a good playable game, albeit cutdown graphically version that runs at 60fps is better than a poor attempt of multi gpu scaling product, or graphically enhanced IP (Batman Arkham knight)

Square Enix on the other hand have worked hard to release same titles on PC with considerable delays, and they paid off because FF15 Looked fantastic. GTAV delayed heavily but also produced one of the highest selling games on pc.

But look back at Ubisoft and even Bethesda products. Crew2 (crew 1 also I believe) capped at 60, entire game is a port from console with a horrible menu system, and the method to quit the game was thrown in afterwards. Shocking to see "how do i quit Crew 2 on PC" such a popular google search.

Division was heavily cut down from its unveiling, has unlocked fps but 5% scaling on multigpu. Watchdogs, same thing. Bethesday games Skyrim and AC series cannot handle 120fps because entire game turns into a pinball machine.

I love the fact that PC community is growing but I just don't know if its enough right now for developers to turn their attention more to utilise what we have in our cases. After all, we all have different components in our case and they need to make them all work smooth.

hmm maybe I should have made a separate thread.

tl;dr I like seeing more console games come to PC, but I have given up on the FPS lock battle.

Dicehunter
10-07-18, 09:17 AM
As much as that does suck I agree with them in when they say a good port is better. I bought dmc3 a few years back before steam had their customer service revamp and it was awful. Max res was 720p borderless and controller support was only half implemented. After 10 mins of trying the game asked for a refund,didnt get it cos Marcus from borderlands was still running customer service back then

Exactly what I have been talking about lately. Consoles, once again, holding back PC games. This is why it is not worth having a gaming PC. A grand for a GPU for that.

It's not a bad thing. What sucks is consoles are 30fps and aren't that great looking unless it's an IP title. If consoles could hit 60fps and look like a PC version of 1080p medium settings it wouldn't be a big issue.

As long as you don't need vastly more powerful hardware to run the game at the same medium console settings I don't see a problem, Hopefully the optimisation is decent but it's Capcom and their porting skills are a little questionable ^_^

WYP
10-07-18, 09:17 AM
It's not a bad thing. What sucks is consoles are 30fps and aren't that great looking unless it's an IP title. If consoles could hit 60fps and look like a PC version of 1080p medium settings it wouldn't be a big issue.

Just to clarify here, Monster Hunter World uses an unlocked framerate on consoles, not a locked 30 or 60FPS. So depending on the game's mode (performance, resolution, graphics) it has different performance profiles, especially on the Xbox One X and PS4 pro.

Dicehunter
10-07-18, 09:18 AM
Just to clarify here, Monster Hunter World uses an unlocked framerate on consoles, not a locked 30 or 60FPS. So depending on the game's mode (performance, resolution, graphics) it has different performance profiles, especially on the Xbox One X and PS4 pro.

As long as they have Ultrawide support then I'm good ^_^

Warchild
10-07-18, 09:21 AM
Just to clarify here, Monster Hunter World uses an unlocked framerate on consoles, not a locked 30 or 60FPS. So depending on the game's mode (performance, resolution, graphics) it has different performance profiles, especially on the Xbox One X and PS4 pro.

Maybe people have seen the screenshot from their site with 60 in the menu options and assumed that was the cap? I am with Dice though. Capcom haven't had the best luck in their ports.

Dicehunter
10-07-18, 11:24 PM
Lian-Li Strimer RGB 24 Pin Motherboard Cable now available for pre-order, £35.99, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't tempted.... ^_^

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/lian-li-strimer-rgb-24-pin-motherboard-cable-cm-017-ll.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/media/image/thumbnail/CM017LL_188661_750x750.jpg

g0ggles1994
10-07-18, 11:56 PM
Lian-Li Strimer RGB 24 Pin Motherboard Cable now available for pre-order, £35.99, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't tempted.... ^_^

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/lian-li-strimer-rgb-24-pin-motherboard-cable-cm-017-ll.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/media/image/thumbnail/CM017LL_188661_750x750.jpg
Correction.. You'd be lying if you said you haven't ordered it ;)

Dicehunter
11-07-18, 12:05 AM
Correction.. You'd be lying if you said you haven't ordered it ;)

Not yet, Gonna wait to see what the quality is like and wait for reviews, Not going to order something as important as a 24 pin that's attached to my PSU without some really good info, I'm a sucker for RGB but this type of product I'm being careful with.

Bartacus
11-07-18, 12:50 AM
Dice: tempted to what, to try men for a change? I mean I understand you have issues with females, but that's a bit extreme isn't it? :D

Dicehunter
11-07-18, 12:53 AM
Dice: tempted to what, to try men for a change? I mean I understand you have issues with females, but that's a bit extreme isn't it? :D

Cheeky slag XD

Warchild
11-07-18, 07:55 AM
hasnt denied it yet :D ;)

So far the two products previously that released RGB 24pin have failed to impress and actually broken apart during reviews.

this one looks stronger but cable doesnt look like it will train nicely.

Dicehunter
11-07-18, 09:50 AM
hasnt denied it yet :D ;)

So far the two products previously that released RGB 24pin have failed to impress and actually broken apart during reviews.

this one looks stronger but cable doesnt look like it will train nicely.

I definitely do not partake in man meat ^_^

g0ggles1994
11-07-18, 10:01 AM
Not yet, Gonna wait to see what the quality is like and wait for reviews, Not going to order something as important as a 24 pin that's attached to my PSU without some really good info, I'm a sucker for RGB but this type of product I'm being careful with.
Good principle. I'm the same when it comes to anything Power Related. I didn't get any CableMod gear until it was proven.
Thinking about it I might be being too cautious :lol:

Dicehunter
11-07-18, 10:03 AM
Good principle. I'm the same when it comes to anything Power Related. I didn't get any CableMod gear until it was proven.
Thinking about it I might be being too cautious :lol:

If it's to do with the PSU there's no such thing as being over cautious, If that goes boom it can take your whole system with it.

Dicehunter
17-07-18, 10:24 AM
Not sure if this has been posted or not but the ROG Strix Fusion Wireless headset with no RGB in sight is now available for pre-order, Looks like the designers have learned not to put stupid lights on a wireless headset, Will also help prolong battery life.

https://www.asus.com/Headphones-Headsets/ROG-Strix-Fusion-wireless/

https://www.asus.com/media/global/products/6pa3ejBFhXRgtfDk/P_setting_000_1_90_end_500.png

NeverBackDown
17-07-18, 05:43 PM
Not sure if this has been posted or not but the ROG Strix Fusion Wireless headset with no RGB in sight is now available for pre-order, Looks like the designers have learned not to put stupid lights on a wireless headset, Will also help prolong battery life.

https://www.asus.com/Headphones-Headsets/ROG-Strix-Fusion-wireless/

https://www.asus.com/media/global/products/6pa3ejBFhXRgtfDk/P_setting_000_1_90_end_500.png

Still looks ugly

NeverBackDown
17-07-18, 05:59 PM
Double post. Yes I know but oh well

Middle Earth Shadow of War loot box patch went live today. Loot boxes are no removed from the game.

g0ggles1994
17-07-18, 06:07 PM
Double post. Yes I know but oh well

Middle Earth Shadow of War loot box patch went live today. Loot boxes are no removed from the game.


Good. F*** lootboxes.

NeverBackDown
17-07-18, 06:19 PM
Good. F*** lootboxes.

They weren't even bad. But sure. Weren't free or anything

Dicehunter
23-07-18, 10:52 AM
Alleged 1170 "leaked" benchmark, Beats 1080 Ti -

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-gtx-1170-alleged-benchmark-leaked-beats-1080-ti.html

http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=news&action=file&id=28581

http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=news&action=file&id=28582

Warchild
23-07-18, 11:28 AM
Alleged 1170 "leaked" benchmark, Beats 1080 Ti -

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-gtx-1170-alleged-benchmark-leaked-beats-1080-ti.html

http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=news&action=file&id=28581

http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=news&action=file&id=28582

I dont believe them. New cards without optimised drivers usually state "generic video card device" or similar.

AngryGoldfish
23-07-18, 11:30 AM
Gamer Meld has posted little but contradictory 'rumours', as in things that people have clearly conjured up to spark conversation and drive traffic.

AlienALX
23-07-18, 11:37 AM
Let's assume that is completely real, right. It's a tiny, weeny bit faster than a 1080ti.

So even if the 1180 were 25% faster (which would be what I would expect with my huge grain of salt) then what will it be good for? 4k? yeah, maybe. I mean, you still don't need more than a 1080ti for 4k. So that means that these are both 4k cards. How many people actually have a 4k monitor to drive? 'cause the last time I looked it wasn't many.

GPUs are only as exciting as the games coming out for them. And right about now there are none that even make me tingle a little bit. The new Metro almost does, but I know I can play it on what I already have (either a Fury X, Titan XP or Xbone).

I will also assume the prices are going to be bat s**t insane, which kinda makes me just yawn.

AngryGoldfish
23-07-18, 11:49 AM
People do really want to see new GPUs though. Games aren't demanding new GPUs, but people still want to see new tech.

Warchild
23-07-18, 11:55 AM
People do really want to see new GPUs though. Games aren't demanding new GPUs, but people still want to see new tech.

We need new GPUs, in order for Devs to push games to the next level.

AngryGoldfish
23-07-18, 11:59 AM
We need new GPUs, in order for Devs to push games to the next level.

Definitely, but even more specifically I think we need GPUs with new technology to push game developers. If it's just a clock boost, what's there to work with other than raw power? It goes back to Intel's powerful 4c/4t CPUs when really we should have had powerful 6c/12t CPUs and beyond for the developers to work with.

Bartacus
23-07-18, 12:01 PM
We need new GPUs, in order for Devs to push games to the next level.

Wrong. Dead wrong. If DEVs can't produce next level content on a 1080TI, they should flip burgers instead of code. New GPU hardware isn't driving development like that.

Daiyus
23-07-18, 12:07 PM
Let's assume that is completely real, right. It's a tiny, weeny bit faster than a 1080ti.

So even if the 1180 were 25% faster (which would be what I would expect with my huge grain of salt) then what will it be good for? 4k? yeah, maybe. I mean, you still don't need more than a 1080ti for 4k. So that means that these are both 4k cards. How many people actually have a 4k monitor to drive? 'cause the last time I looked it wasn't many.

GPUs are only as exciting as the games coming out for them. And right about now there are none that even make me tingle a little bit. The new Metro almost does, but I know I can play it on what I already have (either a Fury X, Titan XP or Xbone).

I will also assume the prices are going to be bat s**t insane, which kinda makes me just yawn.


The only thing I'm really hoping for is cheaper 4K cards. I managed to practically steal a 4K monitor from a colleague but I haven't got the horsepower to properly run it.

My Vega 56 is a 1440p card which it does really well and still looks nice when scaled up. That's a £380 card, at least it was when I bought it and I feel the price/performance was good for the time.

The jump to a 1080 Ti is over £200 which isn't to be taken lightly. If we could get 1080 Ti performance at the £400 price point I'd be excited. But I'm afraid you're probably right in assuming that the prices from Nvidia will be nuts.

Dicehunter
24-07-18, 01:43 AM
So apparently the 8 core 16 thread 9th gen i9 CPU is backwards compatible with existing Z300 series mobos.

https://www.techpowerup.com/246230/top-three-intel-9th-generation-core-parts-detailed

NeverBackDown
24-07-18, 11:56 PM
https://steamcommunity.com/updates/chatupdate

Steam got a new UI overhaul for friends/chat/etc. Honestly is really good so far. Loved the page that the link goes to as well. Perfectly showcases everything.

Hopefully the continue to update the UI. As it is pretty damn old, albeit simple and functional.

Dicehunter
27-07-18, 03:10 PM
Forza Motorsport 7 and Horizons 4 will have loot boxes removed -

https://www.greenmangaming.com/newsroom/2018/07/27/turn-10-prepares-to-remove-loot-crates-from-forza-motorsport-7/

Dicehunter
28-07-18, 07:12 PM
Asus is releasing 19 Z390 boards, Talk about milking it.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/whoops-asus-lists-all-(19)-their-upcoming-z390-motherboards-on-its-support-page.html

Korreborg
28-07-18, 07:35 PM
But why shouldn't they???? As long as the Z370 boards are updated so they don't F... current users, there is absolutely no reason not to put the new chip on the boards, and sell the same board as a Z390. It would be stupid not to do it :)

Damien c
29-07-18, 12:42 PM
Probably the only change if any will be to the VRM's and slap an extra £10 to £30, on each compared to the Z370 variant's and fools will run out and buy them.

I am staying on my Z270 with a 7700K at the moment, which is de-lidded but not overclocked other than the MCE being turned on, as it does everything I need it to for this pc now.

Not in to the whole upgrade a cpu every year or two just because something new comes out, because quite frankly 5% to 10% increases is just not worth it to me anymore.

My next upgrade will be for my Recording/Rendering machine and that will be to either a Threadripper or something like that, eventually when I have saved the money up.

Then after that it will be what ever the 1200 series of card's will be from nVidia or if AMD around that time actually worth buying, for me but that is probably a few around 2 years away or more anyway.

Korreborg
31-07-18, 03:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxV_9krHfZY

Porschaaaa Online Forza 7 contest. Win online, Go to Gamescom and race against others and there you can win a trip to a race track :D

Dicehunter
02-08-18, 07:49 AM
Asus have revealed an external RGB HDD -

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Dicehunter
02-08-18, 03:25 PM
NVIDIA AIB Manli registers GA104-400 - Ampere? And Lists GeForce GTX 2070 and 2080

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-aib-manli-registers-ga104-400-ampere-and-lists-2070-and-2080.html

https://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=news&action=file&id=28713

https://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=news&action=file&id=28714

WYP
02-08-18, 03:36 PM
You are on fire today Dice.

Dicehunter
02-08-18, 03:42 PM
You are on fire today Dice.

Nah that's just my rash flaring up.... :D

Dicehunter
02-08-18, 04:08 PM
No more crashing for monster hunter world due to CPU issues, All fixed apparently, Also the Nvidia driver update gave a nice performance boost, Will hopefully mean better performance on launch day :)

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/08/02/monster-hunter-world-pc-crashing-problem-fixed/

Eddie long
02-08-18, 05:06 PM
Asus have revealed an external RGB HDD -

5Rij4U4dISg

could this be another addition the the desk of dice in the future :)

AlienALX
02-08-18, 07:15 PM
Nah that's just my rash flaring up.... :D

hahahahaha. That wouldn't be so funny, if my PG rash on my hands wasn't so bad :D

Dicehunter
03-08-18, 10:46 AM
could this be another addition the the desk of dice in the future :)

No chance ! ^_^

My deskmat, Mouse, Keyboard, Rig, Monitor and drinks coaster are all that are on my desk and it looks nice and clean, I don't need a gaudy flashing rainbow loud clicking HDD, Plus I have 8TB of storage with plenty of space to spare so don't need any more.

Dicehunter
05-08-18, 02:39 PM
AMD France lists Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX + Cinebench score

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/whoops-amd-had-ryzen-threadripper-2990wx-cinebench-score-online.html


Intel i9 7980XE score: 3,335

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX score: 5,099

Dicehunter
07-08-18, 05:38 PM
Nvidia Hotfix driver for G-Sync stutters -


Windowed G-Sync mode may stutter after upgrading to Windows 10 April 2018 Update.


https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4693

WYP
07-08-18, 05:49 PM
Nvidia Hotfix driver for G-Sync stutters -


Windowed G-Sync mode may stutter after upgrading to Windows 10 April 2018 Update.


https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4693

Good spot. I would be super annoying if you invested in G-Sync and found it stuttering...

Dicehunter
07-08-18, 06:03 PM
Good spot. I would be super annoying if you invested in G-Sync and found it stuttering...

I have actually noticed some stuttering lately, will get this installed when I get home from work.

NeverBackDown
07-08-18, 06:03 PM
Good spot. I would be super annoying if you invested in G-Sync and found it stuttering...

Oh the irony am I right? :D

Bartacus
07-08-18, 06:40 PM
I have actually noticed some stuttering lately, will get this installed when I get home from work.

You running in windowed mode? It doesn't affect full screen G-sync, just windowed mode.

Dicehunter
07-08-18, 06:41 PM
You running in windowed mode? It doesn't affect full screen G-sync, just windowed mode.

Yeah Windowed Fullscreen, I know it doesn't happen in Fullscreen mode but I like tabbing out quickly for emails etc... ^_^

demonking
10-08-18, 08:06 PM
Nice bit of press for AMD
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/10/goldman-gives-up-on-negative-amd-call-upgrades-it-after-more-than-80percent.html

Dicehunter
10-08-18, 08:23 PM
Nice bit of press for AMD
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/10/goldman-gives-up-on-negative-amd-call-upgrades-it-after-more-than-80percent.html

My cousin works for Goldman Sachs, Bit of a douche canoe though ^_^

Damien c
11-08-18, 07:38 AM
CaseLabs are going Bankrupt :cussing:

https://twitter.com/CaseLabsUSA/status/1028064322079977472

Trumps tariffs have meant prices had to increase by 80% making the cases have basically no profit margin according, to the tweet.

Some orders will be sent out but a big chunk are not going to be done.


Personally I hope someone in Europe can start producing these types of cases, so those who go for a monster watercooled build don't have to rely on the majority of mainstream cases, which are just not cut out for it except the occasional case from Corsair.

AngryGoldfish
11-08-18, 11:39 AM
That's so tragic. I know there are far worse things happening in the world right now in relative terms, but I've been following Caselabs for years and to see them be bullied into submission hurts. There were the first company I noticed in the PC world that did not compromise and made everything themselves. I was mad into music gear at the time (and still am), and finding amazing craftsmanship was easy in that world. There were hundreds of 'homegrown' companies producing awesome instruments without compromises, and they're still thriving. But when I started getting into PC hardware, so much of it was cheap, tacky, and manufactured elsewhere. Caselabs were different. People moan about the high prices, but they are high for a reason.

I'm not gonna get into the politics of it, but there is tragic irony in this news. Moog, one of the most established American-made producers of musical instruments is suffering as well because of this new tariff. If they don't start manufacturing overseas, prices will have to go up by 40% or more. Tragically ironic.

Bartacus
11-08-18, 02:53 PM
Yup, that really is awful. :( Not just because Case Labs made great products, but they're REALLY nice people too. Very sad. You will pry my M8 cube case from my cold dead hands.

Dicehunter
12-08-18, 05:26 PM
GeForce HotFix driver version 398.98


Resolved stability issue with latest drivers when running LA Noire VR
Resolved a stutter issue for some configurations in the Call of Duty Black Ops 4 Beta


NOTE: This driver also includes the previous 398.86 fix -


Windowed G-Sync mode may stutter after upgrading to Windows 10 April 2018 Update.


https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4694

Dicehunter
12-08-18, 09:58 PM
GeForce GTX 1180 getting Dual-fans and could be available in September.

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/geforce-gtx-1180-going-dual-fans-and-would-be-available-in-september.html

Dicehunter
14-08-18, 02:12 PM
2080 could be around 12% faster than Titan V according to "leaked" benchmark.

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/possible-geforce-rtx-2080-(turing-gpu)-ashes-of-the-singularity-benchmarks-leak.html

TheF34RChannel
15-08-18, 08:05 PM
Intel teases discrete graphics coming 2020

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-teases-discrete-graphics-coming-2020

If it has a blue shroud I'll scream.

g0ggles1994
15-08-18, 11:14 PM
Metro Exodus Pre Orders Live


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9l2izgnKOU



By god I'm going to double dip this on PC and PS4

AlienALX
16-08-18, 12:07 PM
2080 could be around 12% faster than Titan V according to "leaked" benchmark.

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/possible-geforce-rtx-2080-(turing-gpu)-ashes-of-the-singularity-benchmarks-leak.html

And you need 27% more power than a Titan Xp for what?, exactly? rendering old games and console ports at 500 FPS?

That may sound impressive, but when it comes to RT that is nowhere near enough power. Not when all of the demos you have seen have probably been running on four Volta Quadros.

/sceptical.

Dicehunter
16-08-18, 12:08 PM
And you need 27% more power than a Titan Xp for what?, exactly? rendering old games and console ports at 500 FPS?

That may sound impressive, but when it comes to RT that is nowhere near enough power. Not when all of the demos you have seen have probably been running on four Volta Quadros.

/sceptical.

Tiz all marketing speak to get the customers riled up ^_^

AlienALX
16-08-18, 12:56 PM
Tiz all marketing speak to get the customers riled up ^_^

You, you mean :o

:D

To be quite honest Ashes doesn't really excite me and it's a poo game. Not exactly how I would want to demonstrate a new tech.

AlienALX
17-08-18, 11:15 AM
https://i.imgur.com/WQqnbS7.jpg

https://twitter.com/jwangARK/status/1030194513170636800

This can mean one of two things.

1. The 10 series will drop mahoosively in price.
2. The 20 series will be quite a chunk more expensive, allowing them to keep the 10 series cards at their existing prices.

This is what Rich Swinburne called "left holding the baby".

Bartacus
17-08-18, 11:48 AM
https://i.imgur.com/WQqnbS7.jpg

https://twitter.com/jwangARK/status/1030194513170636800

This can mean one of two things.

1. The 10 series will drop mahoosively in price.
2. The 20 series will be quite a chunk more expensive, allowing them to keep the 10 series cards at their existing prices.

This is what Rich Swinburne called "left holding the baby".

Option 2 for sure. No company with a solid monopoly ever gave customers anything cheap.

AlienALX
17-08-18, 12:24 PM
Option 2 for sure. No company with a solid monopoly ever gave customers anything cheap.

TBH Nvidia can charge whatever they like, because they have the used market to be afraid of. That literally sort of means there are $18m worth of cards sold during the mining phase that will now work their way back into circulation. Miners have no interest in gaming, PC tech and etc. Just pure money making.

NickOmega
17-08-18, 02:04 PM
TBH Nvidia can charge whatever they like, because they have the used market to be afraid of. That literally sort of means there are $18m worth of cards sold during the mining phase that will now work their way back into circulation. Miners have no interest in gaming, PC tech and etc. Just pure money making.

I don't think those cards will be making much of an impact on the used market tbh.
It says "crypto-specific product revenue was $18m" so I presume it's referring to the designated mining cards with no display outs.

The reason they sold so badly in comparison to expectation is because they have no resell value (due to lack of display ports) when they cease to be profitable, unlike normal graphics cards which they offload to unsuspecting gamers on auction/selling sites.

TheF34RChannel
18-08-18, 05:36 AM
Turing, more leaks:

Pre-order date (Monday): https://videocardz.com/77362/nordichardware-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-preorders-to-go-live-on-monday

Zotac cards: https://videocardz.com/newz/zotac-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-and-rtx-2080-amp-series-pictured

PNY cards (2080 = $800, Ti = $1000): https://videocardz.com/77439/pny-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-xlr8-series-leaked-by-pny

2080 PCB: https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-tu104-gpu-and-geforce-rtx-2080-pcb-exposed

Dicehunter
18-08-18, 06:41 AM
Turing, more leaks:

Pre-order date (Monday): https://videocardz.com/77362/nordichardware-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-preorders-to-go-live-on-monday

Zotac cards: https://videocardz.com/newz/zotac-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-and-rtx-2080-amp-series-pictured

PNY cards (2080 = $800, Ti = $1000): https://videocardz.com/77439/pny-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-xlr8-series-leaked-by-pny

2080 PCB: https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-tu104-gpu-and-geforce-rtx-2080-pcb-exposed

Nvidia can kiss my firm rear if they think I'm paying $1000 for a cut down card.

AlienALX
18-08-18, 11:52 AM
Some one said this on OCUK earlier but it resonated with me and it's spot on.

Nvidia are now charging gamers for their mining error, and you will be the ones paying it back, not the miners (because they've all done a bunk).

LOL, seriously I am so over paying Nvidia silly amounts of money. I would love to understand the psyche where a company treat people as badly as they possibly can, yet they keep returning.

TheF34RChannel
18-08-18, 12:07 PM
Nvidia can kiss my firm rear if they think I'm paying $1000 for a cut down card.

I couldn't agree more!! It better be a placeholder.

AlienALX
18-08-18, 12:09 PM
I couldn't agree more!! It better be a placeholder.

I had heard prices as high as $1500....

WYP
18-08-18, 12:39 PM
Remember that this is the same manufacturer that says their Blower-style GTX 1080 Ti costs $829, when most GTX 1080 Ti cards cost $649-$719 in the US.

I wouldn't put any weight behind these prices. Nvidia will no doubt reveal their MSRP for basic cards on Monday.

AlienALX
18-08-18, 01:50 PM
Remember that this is the same manufacturer that says their Blower-style GTX 1080 Ti costs $829, when most GTX 1080 Ti cards cost $649-$719 in the US.

I wouldn't put any weight behind these prices. Nvidia will no doubt reveal their MSRP for basic cards on Monday.

Ti was as high as £800 at one point. Titan Xp cost £1200 or so, where is the middle ground?

I am only confident those will be the prices because they have "tensor" or "RT" cores back on them.

Which I strongly suggest was the same cluster of compute units they used to have on the Titan and Titan Black, doing the DP.

Anything over £400 to me is not worth it. It's just all becoming a really old, bad joke.

TheF34RChannel
18-08-18, 04:34 PM
ASUS GeForce RTX 2080 (Ti) STRIX, DUAL and TURBO series pictured

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-strix-dual-and-turbo-series-pictured

Again with the almost 3 slot heatsink = heavy = definite sagging = hell no for me.

TheF34RChannel
20-08-18, 07:27 AM
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Dual-Fan reference design leaked

https://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2018/08/NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2080-Ti-reference.jpg

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-dual-fan-reference-design-leaked

WYP
20-08-18, 07:38 AM
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Dual-Fan reference design leaked

https://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2018/08/NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2080-Ti-reference.jpg

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-dual-fan-reference-design-leaked

Nice find, beat me to it. Lots of spam to destroy this morning.

NeverBackDown
20-08-18, 08:00 AM
Looks very ugly..
Only a face a mother could love kind of ugly

TheF34RChannel
20-08-18, 09:00 AM
Looks very ugly..
Only a face a mother could love kind of ugly

Yep, that comment made me laugh!!

TheF34RChannel
20-08-18, 11:55 AM
ZOTAC GeForce RTX 2080 Ti AMP! Edition to cost 1199 USD

https://videocardz.com/77505/zotac-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-amp-edition-to-cost-1199-usd

Get ready to pay titan prices for the Ti... 1169 USD for the regular Ti...

Daiyus
20-08-18, 12:04 PM
ZOTAC GeForce RTX 2080 Ti AMP! Edition to cost 1199 USD

https://videocardz.com/77505/zotac-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-amp-edition-to-cost-1199-usd

Get ready to pay titan prices for the Ti... 1169 USD for the regular Ti...


There's only one thing I think of when I see these prices; "Nope!"


When a graphics card comes out that'll match or beat a 1080 Ti for less than £400 I'll upgrade. Until then I'll spend my cash on more reasonable things, like passing my CBT, doing a fast track course and getting a motorbike.

AngryGoldfish
20-08-18, 12:11 PM
LOL

It's such a shame because despite all the complaints directed at Turing, I think it's an exciting architecture. It's far more than I thought it would be, at least based on rumours and current limited announcements. But the price of admission is like asking the barman for a glass of nice Scotch and being served something absolutely amazing... but at €20 per shot. And you're left with a choice: Do I swallow my fears and painfully drink the Nvidia Koolaid... I mean, whiskey? Or do I politely tell the barman to pour that shot back in the bottle where it belongs?

AlienALX
20-08-18, 01:53 PM
*huffs on his knuckles and rubs them on his chest*

What did I say? what did I chuffing say?

Bag of sand. For a GPU being replaced in a year. £1k per year to game. Oh yeah where do I sign up !

£1k to play one game.

srs.. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

trawetSluaP
20-08-18, 01:56 PM
This is aren't these cards considerably cut down too? At least the 1080 Ti was virtually full fat.

WYP
20-08-18, 02:59 PM
This is aren't these cards considerably cut down too? At least the 1080 Ti was virtually full fat.

Will, if the leaked specs for the RTX 2080 Ti are correct, it has 256 fewer CUDA cores than the full sizes (maybe it isn't?) Quadro 6000 and 1GB less VRAM.

When compared to the Titan Xp, the GTX 1080 Ti has 256 fewer CUDA cores and 1GB less VRAM.

It seems to me like the differences are identical.

trawetSluaP
20-08-18, 03:36 PM
Will, if the leaked specs for the RTX 2080 Ti are correct, it has 256 fewer CUDA cores than the full sizes (maybe it isn't?) Quadro 6000 and 1GB less VRAM.

When compared to the Titan Xp, the GTX 1080 Ti has 256 fewer CUDA cores and 1GB less VRAM.

It seems to me like the differences are identical.

Ok, thanks for clearing that up.

AlienALX
21-08-18, 02:07 PM
GTX 2080Ti running SOTTR with RT on. 30-60FPS*


http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Grafikkarten-Grafikkarte-97980/Videos/Nvidia-RTX-2080-Ti-Performance-in-Shadow-of-the-Tomb-Raider-1263244/














*@ 1080p.

WillSK
21-08-18, 03:19 PM
GTX 2080Ti running SOTTR with RT on. 30-60FPS*


http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Grafikkarten-Grafikkarte-97980/Videos/Nvidia-RTX-2080-Ti-Performance-in-Shadow-of-the-Tomb-Raider-1263244/




*@ 1080p.


I think a LOT of people are going to be waiting for true gaming benchmarks in non RT games to assess the value of these.

It was definitely a little fishy that all this 6 x faster and so on was pushed toward games using RT. An idiot could've told you that RT games will benefit massively from Hardware designed to process it...

AlienALX
21-08-18, 03:36 PM
I think a LOT of people are going to be waiting for true gaming benchmarks in non RT games to assess the value of these.

It was definitely a little fishy that all this 6 x faster and so on was pushed toward games using RT. An idiot could've told you that RT games will benefit massively from Hardware designed to process it...

6x faster means 6x faster at RT than previous Pascal GPUs. We kinda knew that 'cause Pascal has no tensor cores specifically for the task.

However I did think that RT would destroy hardware and take a long time before we have GPUs powerful enough to really throw it around at big resolutions. If this is the 2080ti or two then just think how unfit for the task lower tiered cards will fare.

Yeah, not so good.

Daiyus
22-08-18, 09:16 AM
Steam has released a beta version of Proton, a new version of Steam Play which aims to allow Linux users to play non-Linux Steam games on Linux.


https://steamcommunity.com/games/221410/announcements/detail/1696055855739350561


I'm personally very excited by this. The more games I can play on Linux the less I have to rely on Microsoft and Windows for gaming.

Wraith
22-08-18, 09:30 AM
Steam has released a beta version of Proton, a new version of Steam Play which aims to allow Linux users to play non-Linux Steam games on Linux.


https://steamcommunity.com/games/221410/announcements/detail/1696055855739350561


I'm personally very excited by this. The more games I can play on Linux the less I have to rely on Microsoft and Windows for gaming.

Like wise, I miss Ubuntu. Great find.

TheF34RChannel
24-08-18, 05:56 AM
NVIDIA upgrades L1 and L2 caches for Turing

For Turing NVIDIA doubled the bandwidth for the L1 cache. Architectural design changes improved the latency and capacity of L1 cache, which is now 2.7 times as big as Pascal’s.

The L2 cache has been upgraded to 6MB, which is 3MB more than Pascal.

This slide was presented at Editors’ Day yesterday in Cologne. You are not supposed to see it till September 14, so don’t tell anyone.

Slide: https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-upgrades-l1-and-l2-caches-for-turing

trawetSluaP
24-08-18, 11:33 AM
with Nvidia supposedly making more of an effort to support Multiple GPUs with NVLink do you think we will see an improvement in SLI or do you think it's dead?

AlienALX
24-08-18, 11:37 AM
with Nvidia supposedly making more of an effort to support Multiple GPUs with NVLink do you think we will see an improvement in SLI or do you think it's dead?

I don't know about Turing yet (I don't think any one will with public info) but by now Nvidia should be reaching "scaleable" status. IE what AMD promised with Navi.

IDK if AMD will be using IF to stitch it all together or something else, but we should be reaching the point where they can make smaller dies and then tie them together. This makes them cheaper and easier to manufacture.

It's not SLi I am pretty convinced of that. Am sure we will find out once Nvidia want to sell it to us tbh.

WYP
24-08-18, 12:09 PM
with Nvidia supposedly making more of an effort to support Multiple GPUs with NVLink do you think we will see an improvement in SLI or do you think it's dead?

With Nvidia pushing RTX, it is likely that we will see more devs transition to DX12 or Vulkan, which passes the multi-GPU support almost entirely onto them. At least more so than DX11.

Nvidia and AMD can help push devs to support it with partnerships, but that won't really help much. It remains a niche audience within the PC gaming market, which typically means that the dev time is probably better placed somewhere else.

Avet
24-08-18, 05:35 PM
I mean... What?!?

Intel Core i5 9600K - EUR 299
Intel Core i7 9700K - EUR 567
Intel Core i9 9900K - EUR 732

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/core-i9-9900k-and-i7-9700k-surface-in-online-shops.html

looz
24-08-18, 05:37 PM
I mean... What?!?

Intel Core i5 9600K - EUR 299
Intel Core i7 9700K - EUR 567
Intel Core i9 9900K - EUR 732

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/core-i9-9900k-and-i7-9700k-surface-in-online-shops.htmlAyy, even a broken clock is spot on twice a day:

https://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?p=984264#post984264

Avet
24-08-18, 05:48 PM
Ayy, even a broken clock is spot on twice a day:

https://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?p=984264#post984264

It is the price, not the secs news.

AngryGoldfish
24-08-18, 06:23 PM
I've seen higher prices than that when you factor in VAT. This means Ryzen+ probably won't see a price drop since they're still competitively priced against whatever refresh-lake this new CPU range is.

looz
24-08-18, 07:21 PM
It is the price, not the secs news.Maybe the link doesn't work right, I just quoted my guess on the price (~800€). :P

Excalabur50
26-08-18, 10:23 PM
Steam is currently letting people have For Honor for free for a limited time, to keep, I got my copy yesterday

NeverBackDown
26-08-18, 10:30 PM
Steam is currently letting people have For Honor for free for a limited time, to keep, I got my copy yesterday

I got mine to. Didn't download it though.

Played it on PlayStation. Game died quick but it's come back a little. Enough to wear you don't wait long for games at least

There was an article I read that after they announced it being free for the weekend the concurrent player count jumped from a few thousand to around 220k if I remember the number correctly. That was just steam alone. So the total was probably around 300k if you include Uplay

TheF34RChannel
28-08-18, 10:11 PM
I mean... What?!?

Intel Core i5 9600K - EUR 299
Intel Core i7 9700K - EUR 567
Intel Core i9 9900K - EUR 732

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/core-i9-9900k-and-i7-9700k-surface-in-online-shops.html

I'd rather splurge that money on a 2080 - I won't, though...

Dark NighT
28-08-18, 11:53 PM
if those prices are real, Intel is dreaming in another world without AMD in it, holy balls what a ripoff.

Dicehunter
29-08-18, 04:48 AM
if those prices are real, Intel is dreaming in another world without AMD in it, holy balls what a ripoff.

Intel beating AMD in multi core performance i.e 8c/16 vs 8c/16t is basically already a guarantee and single core performance will be slightly better than the 8700K which is already faster than the 2700X by quite a bit so Intel can charge a premium for having the faster product but if it's THAT much more expensive then Intel are solely relying on brand loyalists.

NeverBackDown
29-08-18, 06:25 AM
Intel beating AMD in multi core performance i.e 8c/16 vs 8c/16t is basically already a guarantee and single core performance will be slightly better than the 8700K which is already faster than the 2700X by quite a bit so Intel can charge a premium for having the faster product but if it's THAT much more expensive then Intel are solely relying on brand loyalists.

The money saved into AMD platform can be spent on a better GPU and make the CPU irrelevant anyway and therefore end up with a faster PC anyway.

Dicehunter
29-08-18, 07:20 AM
The money saved into AMD platform can be spent on a better GPU and make the CPU irrelevant anyway and therefore end up with a faster PC anyway.

That is very true but if you are a 1080P high Hz gamer then that extra single core perf really comes in handy.

Warchild
29-08-18, 08:33 AM
I'd rather splurge that money on a 2080 - I won't, though...

Id rather give them the middle finger by keeping my wallet in my pocket.
At this rate, this could be the first year in many that I make absolutely 0 upgrades.

NeverBackDown
29-08-18, 09:23 AM
That is very true but if you are a 1080P high Hz gamer then that extra single core perf really comes in handy.

The GPU would probably still make it even

Dicehunter
29-08-18, 09:58 AM
The GPU would probably still make it even

Depends on the game but at anything under 1440P Intel will have the performance lead for quite some time unless AMD can get their single core performance up quite a bit.

In Fortnight with a 1080 Ti at 1080P the 8700K takes a 20FPS lead over the 2700X and in various other games it's sometimes more and sometimes less, Depends on the engine, Rainbow 6 Siege sees the 8700K with a 32FPS advantage, In CSGO the 2700X gets 438 and the 8700K gets 519, I know at that point it's not really important but it shows CPU does matter at 1080P.

I'm lucky and have both CPU's and for 1080P high Hz gaming I wouldn't dream of using the 2700X, For a higher res yeah sure as then it's just GPU bound but not 1080P.

Thought all this was pretty well known ^_^

AngryGoldfish
29-08-18, 04:24 PM
Yeah, Intel will still be the way to go for enthusiast gaming at 1080p. I know those words together aren't usually synonymous, but it's definitely a thing, especially now with 240Hz monitors. People use high-end GPUs at 1080p quite a bit, which makes Intel the way to go. Even a 8600K would trounce the more expensive 2700X. Plus Intel's platform is far more stable (if you don't factor in the security risks of course). :p

NeverBackDown
29-08-18, 04:38 PM
Depends on the game but at anything under 1440P Intel will have the performance lead for quite some time unless AMD can get their single core performance up quite a bit.

In Fortnight with a 1080 Ti at 1080P the 8700K takes a 20FPS lead over the 2700X and in various other games it's sometimes more and sometimes less, Depends on the engine, Rainbow 6 Siege sees the 8700K with a 32FPS advantage, In CSGO the 2700X gets 438 and the 8700K gets 519, I know at that point it's not really important but it shows CPU does matter at 1080P.

I'm lucky and have both CPU's and for 1080P high Hz gaming I wouldn't dream of using the 2700X, For a higher res yeah sure as then it's just GPU bound but not 1080P.

Thought all this was pretty well known ^_^

No. You are talking about something different all of a sudden.

We were talking about the new CPU prices. The point was the money saved from using the new CPU could go towards a new GPU for Ryzen and the faster GPU would probably still overcome the difference between the the Intel CPU and the slower GPU. Hopefully makes more sense.

TheF34RChannel
29-08-18, 05:30 PM
Before this misconception starts here as well:

Nvidia to 'control' AIBs custom RTX 2080/Ti reviews

NVIDIA has demanded that its AIBs tell NVIDIA who will be reviewing the AIB's custom RTX 2080 and 2080 Ti cards. We were forwarded emails from other reviewers, from the AIBs that were asking specifically, at NVIDIA's direction, "Who will be performing the review content?" "What is that person's phone number and email address?" That is a bit odd, as we have never seen this before in 20 years of reviewing video cards.

- Kyle, HardOCP

That's just a big can of nonsense (and I initially wrote another word there). NVIDIA always has tracked what media gets what AIB samples, period. You know who does that as well? AMD, they even regulate what brand and sample end up at what reviewer. How conveniently he forgets to mention that.

I think Kyle is letting his feelings getting to his better judgment.

- Hilbert Hagedoorn, Guru3D

NeverBackDown
29-08-18, 06:27 PM
Before this misconception starts here as well:

Nvidia to 'control' AIBs custom RTX 2080/Ti reviews



- Kyle, HardOCP



- Hilbert Hagedoorn, Guru3D

HardOCP is as useless as WCCFTech.

looz
29-08-18, 06:32 PM
On what account? Their GPP coverage was spot on.

NeverBackDown
29-08-18, 06:41 PM
On what account? Their GPP coverage was spot on.

You must be out of the loop then.
https://twitter.com/hardocp/status/1007003361223368704?lang=en
Went on to accuse multiple parties including OC3D/TTL of being paid off shills.
Not to mention stupid bulls* like what was posted above. It's a clickbait website like WCCFTECH is.

TheF34RChannel
30-08-18, 09:56 AM
YNnDRtZ_ODM

Must watch!

Deep dives into (for consumers):

- DLSS
- RT
- Pascal vs Turing (outside RT & DLSS)
- starting at prices
- way more

Dicehunter
30-08-18, 06:39 PM
Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine, Amazing game, Grab it free from Humble for your Steam library -

https://www.humblebundle.com/store/warhammer-40000-space-marine

Excalabur50
31-08-18, 07:47 AM
Wasn't sure where to post this BUT thought you'd all like to see it, I received an email from MSI today about the upcoming 2080 series cards but what was at the bottom really caught my attention and thought deserved a share on here.

https://i.imgur.com/2J8RAAN.png

TheF34RChannel
31-08-18, 09:12 PM
Wasn't sure where to post this BUT thought you'd all like to see it, I received an email from MSI today about the upcoming 2080 series cards but what was at the bottom really caught my attention and thought deserved a share on here.

https://i.imgur.com/2J8RAAN.png

I must be the most oblivious person ever but I don't see it but a curious.

WYP
31-08-18, 09:17 PM
I must be the most oblivious person ever but I don't see it but a curious.

It mentions OC3D's review of the X399 MEG.

TheF34RChannel
31-08-18, 09:24 PM
It mentions OC3D's review of the X399 MEG.

Oh I did see that! Thought he was referring to some sort of GPU news spill :p silly me

AlienALX
31-08-18, 10:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZXU7R-xwtg

Excalabur50
31-08-18, 11:50 PM
Oh I did see that! Thought he was referring to some sort of GPU news spill :p silly me

YES! The fact that the board got an Ultimate award and made it to the marketing emails which spreads the word about OC3D I think is pretty damn cool. :D

NeverBackDown
02-09-18, 08:49 AM
Because of Nvidia strategically planning there RTX event very near AMDs conference call, this slipped by.

http://ir.amd.com/news-releases/news-release-details/expanding-our-high-performance-leadership-focused-7nm

AMD CEO Lisa Su confirms 7nm GPU launch later this year. Navi is coming! Although we do not know if it's a Professional launch of Gamer launch.. or both

Excalabur50
02-09-18, 09:10 AM
Because of Nvidia strategically planning there RTX event very near AMDs conference call, this slipped by.

http://ir.amd.com/news-releases/news-release-details/expanding-our-high-performance-leadership-focused-7nm

AMD CEO Lisa Su confirms 7nm GPU launch later this year. Navi is coming! Although we do not know if it's a Professional launch of Gamer launch.. or both

Nice find Dude!

AngryGoldfish
02-09-18, 12:54 PM
That's excellent to hear. I imagine the 7nm GPU this year will be Vega 20 Pro or whatever it's going to be called. Still, that could be a sign of what's to come from Radeon, and even Zen 2.

WYP
02-09-18, 03:25 PM
Because of Nvidia strategically planning there RTX event very near AMDs conference call, this slipped by.

http://ir.amd.com/news-releases/news-release-details/expanding-our-high-performance-leadership-focused-7nm

AMD CEO Lisa Su confirms 7nm GPU launch later this year. Navi is coming! Although we do not know if it's a Professional launch of Gamer launch.. or both

AMD revealed 7nm Vega earlier this year, which was always planned for a 2018 launch. It is targeted at machine learning, not gaming. Not sure we will see 7nm Vega on the gaming side.

Not new information. 7nm GPU this year does not mean Navi. 7nm Vega will release to the machine learning market first.

NeverBackDown
02-09-18, 04:58 PM
AMD revealed 7nm Vega earlier this year, which was always planned for a 2018 launch. It is targeted at machine learning, not gaming. Not sure we will see 7nm Vega on the gaming side.

Not new information. 7nm GPU this year does not mean Navi. 7nm Vega will release to the machine learning market first.

No. Nothing was confirmed for this year. Nobody knows what AMDs plans are. You are just assuming a lot here. You forget Lisa said they are open to releasing in all markets. Considering AI and ML are the way forward as they are the biggest and most lucrative markets it makes sense to bring it to games as well. It was always going to happen. Just look at Turing. Nobody expected it to have Tensor cores. Everybody said Volta won't be coming because it has HPC functionality. They were wong.

WYP
02-09-18, 07:07 PM
No. Nothing was confirmed for this year. Nobody knows what AMDs plans are. You are just assuming a lot here. You forget Lisa said they are open to releasing in all markets. Considering AI and ML are the way forward as they are the biggest and most lucrative markets it makes sense to bring it to games as well. It was always going to happen. Just look at Turing. Nobody expected it to have Tensor cores. Everybody said Volta won't be coming because it has HPC functionality. They were wong.

Ok, from AMD's own Q2 2018 financial results (https://www.amd.com/en/press-releases/press-release-2018-07-25), as released on June 25th, 2018.

At Computex 2018, AMD showcased the next-generation of leadership CPU and GPU products including the first public demonstrations of:

-The 12nm “Zen+”-based 2nd Generation Ryzen ThreadripperTM CPU, featuring an industry-leading 32-cores and 64-threads of HEDT computing power, scheduled to launch in Q3 2018.
- The 7nm Radeon “Vega” architecture-based GPU for servers and workstations that is planned to launch later in 2018.

Yeah, nothing was confirmed for this year... "planned to launch later in 2018" isn't a clear indication at all.

AMD can easily release a gaming version of 7nm Vega, the question is whether or not it is worth it for them in 2018. It all depends on how soon Navi is, which is unknowable outside of AMD.

As for Volta, the Titan V isn't exactly a consumer-oriented product. Volta won't see a consumer GTX-grade gaming release. Nvidia has moved on.

As for Turing, Wraith can probably tell you how many times I told him that I expected Tensor cores in future Nvidia gaming cards on Discord. Ever since GDC 2018 we have known that Nvidia could use them for de-noising ray-traced images. There is a reason why Volta was used for early RTX demos instead of Pascal, despite the fact that Volta lacks RT cores.

NeverBackDown
03-09-18, 04:54 PM
Ok, from AMD's own Q2 2018 financial results (https://www.amd.com/en/press-releases/press-release-2018-07-25), as released on June 25th, 2018.



Yeah, nothing was confirmed for this year... "planned to launch later in 2018" isn't a clear indication at all.

AMD can easily release a gaming version of 7nm Vega, the question is whether or not it is worth it for them in 2018. It all depends on how soon Navi is, which is unknowable outside of AMD.

As for Volta, the Titan V isn't exactly a consumer-oriented product. Volta won't see a consumer GTX-grade gaming release. Nvidia has moved on.

As for Turing, Wraith can probably tell you how many times I told him that I expected Tensor cores in future Nvidia gaming cards on Discord. Ever since GDC 2018 we have known that Nvidia could use them for de-noising ray-traced images. There is a reason why Volta was used for early RTX demos instead of Pascal, despite the fact that Volta lacks RT cores.

Well considering the link I gave says Navi and not Vega, I'd say I was right in thinking Navi is coming this year.

AngryGoldfish
03-09-18, 05:28 PM
Well considering the link I gave says Navi and not Vega, I'd say I was right in thinking Navi is coming this year.

"AMD’s next major milestone is the introduction of our upcoming 7nm product portfolio, including the initial products with our second generation “Zen 2” CPU core and our new “Navi” GPU architecture. We have already taped out multiple 7nm products at TSMC, including our first 7nm GPU planned to launch later this year and our first 7nm server CPU that we plan to launch in 2019."

That reads to me like it could be Navi OR Vega. The article never mentions Vega, but the part in bold suggests the first 7nm GPU—which we know is Vega because we've already seen that demoed—will be Vega 20 since it's the only 7nm GPU that's announced as being 'functional'.

Warchild
05-09-18, 11:24 AM
Survivor victim of the jacksonville shooting is suing EA for negligence.

Source (https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/31/17805842/jacksonville-madden-shooting-survivor-lawsuit-ea-restaurant)

edit* seems there are multiple parties all prepping to do the same.


Also Kitguru has an article with proposed leaked benchmarks for 2080ti in games

https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/matthew-wilson/reported-benchmark-leak-shows-rtx-2080ti-performance-in-games/ interesting results if true. Yet.. very disappointing. With that said. I doubt they are legit. Battlefield V shows yet has the BETA even been released?

Dicehunter
05-09-18, 11:27 AM
Survivor victim of the jacksonville shooting is suing EA for negligence.

Source (https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/31/17805842/jacksonville-madden-shooting-survivor-lawsuit-ea-restaurant)

edit* seems there are multiple parties all prepping to do the same.

Nothing but a cash grab by opportunists, It's not the publishers fault that a psychopath was at the venue.

AlienALX
05-09-18, 11:37 AM
https://wccftech.com/exclusive-amd-navi-gpu-roadmap-cost-zen/

Excellent article there. They reckon Navi is for the PS5..

AngryGoldfish
05-09-18, 12:08 PM
Nothing but a cash grab by opportunists, It's not the publishers fault that a psychopath was at the venue.

Yeah, I'm not sure how EA are responsible for this, to the point of calling them negligent and suing them for it. It's basically saying it's their fault. That's highly accusatory and damning. There will be murder or crimes with or without higher security from event organisers. The escalation theory would start to take effect, where if there were multiple security cards at the doors, the gunman might find a vantage point instead. It's why I think the argument that giving everyone guns would protect them from mass shootings is like giving a paracetamol to a patient with a tumour. It's a pointless escapade because murderers will find other means to commit their crimes. The problem will always be there until you get to the root of it, which is the human condition. Not tighter security, not guns, not bullet proof glass.

Warchild
05-09-18, 12:09 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure how EA are responsible for this, to the point of calling them negligent and suing them for it. It's basically saying it's their fault. That's highly accusatory and damning. There will be murder or crimes with or without higher security from event organisers. The escalation theory would start to take effect, where if there were multiple security cards at the doors, the gunman might find a vantage point instead. It's why I think the argument that giving everyone guns would protect them from mass shootings is like giving a paracetamol to a patient with a tumour. It's a pointless escapade because murderers will find other means to commit their crimes. The problem will always be there until you get to the root of it, which is the human condition. Not tighter security, not guns, not bullet proof glass.

I think the Lawsuit is aimed at both EA and the venue owners for lack of proper security.

Bartacus
05-09-18, 12:14 PM
I think the Lawsuit is aimed at both EA and the venue owners for lack of proper security.

Or it's being aimed by people that want to get paid for being traumatized, because they're materialistic, shallow, and weak. You can't prevent stuff like this, and you never WILL be able to do so. But you sure as hell can sue and get PAID, especially in North America, where everything is someone else's fault.

TheF34RChannel
05-09-18, 01:38 PM
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 reviews on September 17th

We previously reported that NVIDIA GeForce RTX reviews will go live on September 14th. Turns out that was incorrect. There is indeed an embargo ending on September 14th but is only for Turing architecture details, basically the stuff that was presented at the Editors’ Day.

The reviews will be available on September 17th, but only reviews of GeForce RTX 2080 graphics cards. The RTX 2080 Ti reviews will go live two days later, a day before the preorders end, which is September 19th.

The good news is that reviews of both Founders Edition and AIB cards will be published on the same day.

Most reviewers will get their samples next week.

GeForce RTX NDA dates:

September 14th — Turing architecture
September 17th — GeForce RTX 2080 reviews
September 19th — GeForce RTX 2080 Ti reviews

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-reviews-go-live-on-september-17th

Boo Nvidia, boo!!

AngryGoldfish
05-09-18, 02:08 PM
https://wccftech.com/exclusive-amd-navi-gpu-roadmap-cost-zen/

Excellent article there. They reckon Navi is for the PS5..

Yeah, that makes sense. The custom gaming market is too Nvidia-dominated to be profitable when you have other segments that are more profitable. Vega proved you can't please everyone with the same architecture. Navi is likely to be the same.

I never bought Vega on 7nm for gaming. By the time 7nm manufacturing is available with enough supply at the right price, Vega would no longer be competitive because Nvidia will have jumped aboard 7nm and Navi will be on the horizon, even if only for certain markets. But 7nm Vega for the professional market makes far more sense. Production costs will be lower but retail prices could remain high. Performance will go up in a market where Vega was already quite competitive, thus making them competitive. I suspect investors are also more interested in those markets over gaming.

looz
05-09-18, 02:21 PM
Saw this on reddit:

Metro Exodus RTX demo ran at 1080p 40FPS on RTX 2080 Ti

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/63052/metro-exodus-rtx-demo-ran-1080p-40fps-2080-ti/index.html

4A Games was running two separate demos of Metro Exodus; one on the GeForce GTX 1080 Ti running at 4K with "largely pleasant liquid frame rates" says PCGamesHardware, while the RTX demo was running at 1080p on the next-gen GeForce RTX 2080 Ti and was "still just playable".

TheF34RChannel
05-09-18, 02:46 PM
Saw this on reddit:

Metro Exodus RTX demo ran at 1080p 40FPS on RTX 2080 Ti

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/63052/metro-exodus-rtx-demo-ran-1080p-40fps-2080-ti/index.html

4A Games was running two separate demos of Metro Exodus; one on the GeForce GTX 1080 Ti running at 4K with "largely pleasant liquid frame rates" says PCGamesHardware, while the RTX demo was running at 1080p on the next-gen GeForce RTX 2080 Ti and was "still just playable".

And their point is, what...?

AngryGoldfish
05-09-18, 02:54 PM
And their point is, what...?

I don't think there is any point to these rumours. It's all so speculative and everyone is so keen to see performance metrics that any news is news. Get 'dem hits, yo.

AlienALX
05-09-18, 03:41 PM
And their point is, what...?

That we should be excited because it manages 40 FPS @1080p.

Let's see how many 144hz fanboyz take this news.

"But I can't play games at 60 FPS whine whinge"

TheF34RChannel
05-09-18, 03:51 PM
That we should be excited because it manages 40 FPS @1080p.

Let's see how many 144hz fanboyz take this news.

"But I can't play games at 60 FPS whine whinge"

Compared to not being able to even run it on all current hardware it's impressive and we're on the brink of this new tech, it'll take many more generations to have it better. Somehow so many are expecting it magically runs at 500 FPS ;) this is why I don't care about RT :) I don't want to run that res at that FPS.

AlienALX
05-09-18, 04:27 PM
Three years. There, I said it. Anything before three years is a tech demo.

TheF34RChannel
05-09-18, 04:35 PM
Three years. There, I said it. Anything before three years is a tech demo.

More likely than not ;)

The only interesting feature is DLSS.

NeverBackDown
05-09-18, 05:23 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure how EA are responsible for this, to the point of calling them negligent and suing them for it. It's basically saying it's their fault. That's highly accusatory and damning. There will be murder or crimes with or without higher security from event organisers. The escalation theory would start to take effect, where if there were multiple security cards at the doors, the gunman might find a vantage point instead. It's why I think the argument that giving everyone guns would protect them from mass shootings is like giving a paracetamol to a patient with a tumour. It's a pointless escapade because murderers will find other means to commit their crimes. The problem will always be there until you get to the root of it, which is the human condition. Not tighter security, not guns, not bullet proof glass.

Just so everybody knows the gunman was a player who lost in the tournament. Quite literally the definition of a sore loser.
Not much EA can do about it.

Although They are being sued for lack of security and apparently they didn't have any reservations to use the mall it took place in. They kinda just showed up without paper work and the mall said eh whatever it's fine.

NeverBackDown
05-09-18, 11:25 PM
Micron announced today they are the GDDR6 Memory supplier for RTX.
https://www.micron.com/about/blogs/2018/september/micron-delivers-gddr6-production-performance-as-nvidias-launch-partner

TheF34RChannel
06-09-18, 03:53 AM
Micron announced today they are the GDDR6 Memory supplier for RTX.
https://www.micron.com/about/blogs/2018/september/micron-delivers-gddr6-production-performance-as-nvidias-launch-partner

And I'm pretty sure that Samsung with its 16Gbs supplies for the Quadro family.

NeverBackDown
06-09-18, 04:30 AM
And I'm pretty sure that Samsung with its 16Gbs supplies for the Quadro family.

Considering Micron has more supply and they are soon releasing 16Gbps I'm sure we will see RTX cards come with it. It'll be interesting to find out how that will affect prices. Assuming they stick with Micron or the AIBs use Micron. Who knows. I'd think that extra 2Gbps would impact performance more than core overclocking so I could really see them going for it.

TheF34RChannel
06-09-18, 10:13 AM
Considering Micron has more supply and they are soon releasing 16Gbps I'm sure we will see RTX cards come with it. It'll be interesting to find out how that will affect prices. Assuming they stick with Micron or the AIBs use Micron. Who knows. I'd think that extra 2Gbps would impact performance more than core overclocking so I could really see them going for it.

Yep, AIBs can likely do whatever they want?

Dicehunter
06-09-18, 11:07 AM
That we should be excited because it manages 40 FPS @1080p.

Let's see how many 144hz fanboyz take this news.

"But I can't play games at 60 FPS whine whinge"

I'd rather have 60+FPS than accurate reflections and shadows ^_^

AngryGoldfish
06-09-18, 12:12 PM
Yep, AIBs can likely do whatever they want?

I think Nvidia supply the memory as well as the core. I could be wrong.

Dicehunter
10-09-18, 10:36 AM
Ryzen 10 core 2800X maybe on the AM4 socket to combat Intels 8 core -

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-10-core-ryzen-2800x-in-response-to-intel-core-i9-9900k.html

AngryGoldfish
10-09-18, 11:16 AM
Ryzen 10 core 2800X maybe on the AM4 socket to combat Intels 8 core -

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-10-core-ryzen-2800x-in-response-to-intel-core-i9-9900k.html

That's strange indeed. Most of us just expected a higher clocked version.

WYP
10-09-18, 11:19 AM
Ryzen 10 core 2800X maybe on the AM4 socket to combat Intels 8 core -

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-10-core-ryzen-2800x-in-response-to-intel-core-i9-9900k.html

Cinebench is too easy to fake, the scores also look super similar to an Intel 10-core 7900X.

I also don't see AMD making a new 2000 series silicon for a single SKU, never mind the fact that AMD's CCX units come in sets of four, and that they always seem to disable the same number of cores in every CCX at once.

For example, Ryzen Threadripper (1st Gen). These models have two dies with two CCX's each. AMD has an 8-core, 12-core ( core per CCX) and a 16-core (+another core per CCX)(All cores in use).

I don't see AMD doing a major design overhaul before Zen 2/7nm. It is also worth remembering that Ryzen 2nd Generation is just Zen with a bit of extra polish.

Warchild
10-09-18, 12:13 PM
Ryzen 10 core 2800X maybe on the AM4 socket to combat Intels 8 core -

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-10-core-ryzen-2800x-in-response-to-intel-core-i9-9900k.html

10core doesnt make sense really. I would have expected 12Core.
Naming of the chip in the leaked picture is also odd.

"AMD Ryzen R7 2800X". When has AMD chips been named like this?

Dicehunter
10-09-18, 12:46 PM
Could they not pack 2 x of the new 8 core modules onto 1 PCB and disable 3 cores on each or use CCX's that don't make the grade for the full 8 cores and use ones that have 5 usable cores ?

WYP
10-09-18, 12:57 PM
Could they not pack 2 x of the new 8 core modules onto 1 PCB and disable 3 cores on each or use CCX's that don't make the grade for the full 8 cores and use ones that have 5 usable cores ?

I don't think you can disable cores on one CCX and not the other. I don't even think I can even set up a 8-core Ryzen to have 5 cores active in the BIOS.

The two-die hypothesis would be far too much silicon for AM4, as while it could physically fit in there, cooling it would be a different story. Basically Threadripper on AM4. Then there is also the fact that the AM4 socket is not designed to with two dies in mind.

Even if the got two dies working, it wouldn't be optimal, as one of the two dies wouldn't have direct memory access. Too many disadvantages to be worth it.

If the Ryzen 2800X exists, its a Ryzen 7 2700X with higher boost clocks speeds.

WillSK
10-09-18, 02:04 PM
Three years. There, I said it. Anything before three years is a tech demo.

I completely agree dude, albeit I do still think the technology is very very cool.

At the moment my dilemma is that I'm currently on a 980Ti and wanting to upgrade. I am under no illusion that RTX is not a fully playable technology imo (at least not at high framereates on 1440p). What card would be best for me to upgrade to? 2080 or is the standard upgrade of the 2080ti not including RTX worth going for...

AlienALX
10-09-18, 03:16 PM
Ryzen 10 core 2800X maybe on the AM4 socket to combat Intels 8 core -

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-10-core-ryzen-2800x-in-response-to-intel-core-i9-9900k.html

Ahhhhhhh the penny drops. Very clever move there !

Dicehunter
10-09-18, 03:29 PM
I completely agree dude, albeit I do still think the technology is very very cool.

At the moment my dilemma is that I'm currently on a 980Ti and wanting to upgrade. I am under no illusion that RTX is not a fully playable technology imo (at least not at high framereates on 1440p). What card would be best for me to upgrade to? 2080 or is the standard upgrade of the 2080ti not including RTX worth going for...

Get a pre-owned 1080 Ti, They can be had for around £500, Lower if you get a good deal.

Dicehunter
11-09-18, 03:54 PM
EA/DICE have banned the word "white man" from chat in BFV -

A7Dx8feiVP8

Damien c
12-09-18, 06:42 AM
EA/DICE have banned the word "white man" from chat in BFV -

A7Dx8feiVP8

Yep and "DLC" "LAG" and a few other words.

I have already told my friends, I won't be playing anymore EA published games or buying them.


Of course 2 of my friends are saying there is nothing wrong with it and that it's being blown out of proportion etc, but if it was anything but "White Man" that had been censored there would be outrage all over the internet and news.

I am surprised I haven't got a warning of twitter for my tweet about it, since they like to class a lot of sensible talk as "Hate Speech" because it doesn't align with there political views.

Dicehunter
12-09-18, 11:41 PM
The EU parliament is already full of whack jobs that should be thrown into mental asylums but they are proving once again they want to control as much as they can.

EU parliament approves new copyright rules that could be 'catastrophic' for the internet.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/eu-parliament-copyright-memes-latest-vote-internet-article-11-13-a8534121.html?amp&__twitter_impression=true

NeverBackDown
13-09-18, 12:10 AM
The EU parliament is already full of whack jobs that should be thrown into mental asylums but they are proving once again they want to control as much as they can.

EU parliament approves new copyright rules that could be 'catastrophic' for the internet.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/eu-parliament-copyright-memes-latest-vote-internet-article-11-13-a8534121.html?amp&__twitter_impression=true

That's just another description of government my dude

Dicehunter
13-09-18, 12:10 AM
That's just another description of government my dude

Lolz true ^_^

Warchild
13-09-18, 09:16 AM
Yep and "DLC" "LAG" and a few other words.

I have already told my friends, I won't be playing anymore EA published games or buying them.


Of course 2 of my friends are saying there is nothing wrong with it and that it's being blown out of proportion etc, but if it was anything but "White Man" that had been censored there would be outrage all over the internet and news.

I am surprised I haven't got a warning of twitter for my tweet about it, since they like to class a lot of sensible talk as "Hate Speech" because it doesn't align with there political views.

I couldnt care about the white man censorship. I never typed in an fps anyway. My issue that threw off my interest is the removal of all things "nazi". Graphics are improved to provide more realism, and immersion. This is the world war after all. They want us to feel like we were there... but then they remove all content that remotely links the war to the Nazi. Well there goes the immersion and realism.

Its minor I know, but it's also very silly. EA are now afraid of the SJWs who are taking over everywhere.

Damien c
13-09-18, 09:35 AM
I couldnt care about the white man censorship. I never typed in an fps anyway. My issue that threw off my interest is the removal of all things "nazi". Graphics are improved to provide more realism, and immersion. This is the world war after all. They want us to feel like we were there... but then they remove all content that remotely links the war to the Nazi. Well there goes the immersion and realism.

Its minor I know, but it's also very silly. EA are now afraid of the SJWs who are taking over everywhere.

To be honest "White Man" is not something I would type in the chat, but talking with others not on TS or Discord about DLC or LAG and a few other things, I do use the text chat for.

Yes the Nazi stuff is stupid, it's just getting rid of history because it's offensive to some people.

Kind of like the word that 1 group of people find offensive, but then they use it themselves all the time, how can it offensive to that group if they themselves use the word all the time.

Either way things are just going to get worse and worse as more and more people get offended by the stupidest of things.

AlienALX
13-09-18, 09:47 AM
To be honest "White Man" is not something I would type in the chat, but talking with others not on TS or Discord about DLC or LAG and a few other things, I do use the text chat for.

Yes the Nazi stuff is stupid, it's just getting rid of history because it's offensive to some people.

Kind of like the word that 1 group of people find offensive, but then they use it themselves all the time, how can it offensive to that group if they themselves use the word all the time.

Either way things are just going to get worse and worse as more and more people get offended by the stupidest of things.

If we get rid of history then the world will be much worse off. We need reminding what scum can lurk around. Case in point, Trump.

Take history away and we are doomed to repeat it. It's as simple as that.

NeverBackDown
13-09-18, 09:53 AM
Nvidia Turing Tesla T4
https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/new-nvidia-data-center-inference-platform-to-fuel-next-wave-of-ai-powered-services

Dicehunter
13-09-18, 10:19 AM
If we get rid of history then the world will be much worse off. We need reminding what scum can lurk around. Case in point, Trump.

Take history away and we are doomed to repeat it. It's as simple as that.

I'm not a Trump fan or fan of any politician but he does a lot of stuff that gets severely twisted by the main stream media.

1 of the more recent things was the media made out like he was inappropriately pumping his fist on his way to a ceremony, Thing is the cameras only showed half the picture and then cut off, He was actually playfully greeting a young kid with cancer and gave him a massive hug.

As I said, Not a fan of any politician but the MSM have had it in for him from day 1 since he called them out for their bias reporting, Twisting everything he says and does.

NeverBackDown
13-09-18, 05:17 PM
I'm not a Trump fan or fan of any politician but he does a lot of stuff that gets severely twisted by the main stream media.

1 of the more recent things was the media made out like he was inappropriately pumping his fist on his way to a ceremony, Thing is the cameras only showed half the picture and then cut off, He was actually playfully greeting a young kid with cancer and gave him a massive hug.

As I said, Not a fan of any politician but the MSM have had it in for him from day 1 since he called them out for their bias reporting, Twisting everything he says and does.

I'm glad you said something in a nice way. I had to restrain myself to reply to such an ignorant post lol

NeverBackDown
13-09-18, 05:28 PM
https://assassinscreed.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/news-updates/335024/assassins-creed-odyssey-post-launch-details-revealed-

Ubisoft just announced the post launch DLC in the season pass. Major news. Season pass includes Assassin's Creed 3 Remastered(as well as Liberation Remastered)

There's also a video in the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-sCQnFX-uU

Dicehunter
13-09-18, 06:36 PM
I'm glad you said something in a nice way. I had to restrain myself to reply to such an ignorant post lol

As I said I'm not a Trump fan or fan of any politician but all the anti Trump stuff gets on my nerves.

A photo a while back now probably a few years before he ran for POTUS he was standing next to a black kid and MSM made out like he was leading the kid to be killed, Calling him racist etc... Turned out he was standing next to him because he just helped him and a lot of other kids from a poor area get into college.

The downright lying nature of MSM and the hyper emotional knee-jerk behaviour of people getting their pitch forks out because they heard a half story is getting old real fast.

https://assassinscreed.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/news-updates/335024/assassins-creed-odyssey-post-launch-details-revealed-

Ubisoft just announced the post launch DLC in the season pass. Major news. Season pass includes Assassin's Creed 3 Remastered(as well as Liberation Remastered)


Oooooh I'll be having those remasters, Love AC3 ^_^

NeverBackDown
13-09-18, 11:00 PM
As I said I'm not a Trump fan or fan of any politician but all the anti Trump stuff gets on my nerves.

A photo a while back now probably a few years before he ran for POTUS he was standing next to a black kid and MSM made out like he was leading the kid to be killed, Calling him racist etc... Turned out he was standing next to him because he just helped him and a lot of other kids from a poor area get into college.

The downright lying nature of MSM and the hyper emotional knee-jerk behaviour of people getting their pitch forks out because they heard a half story is getting old real fast.



Oooooh I'll be having those remasters, Love AC3 ^_^

Agreed
And yes I would say that a Season pass containing Remastered old games is honestly a great idea. I like that way more than DLC that adds 2 hours at most of extra content. Ubisoft definitely the past few years has tried to turn there image around and this is a big step. Unlike EA on the other hand

AngryGoldfish
14-09-18, 02:13 PM
AC3 was terrible from my experience. The performance was dire (though that'll obviously change) and the introduction was so bland and uninspired. It's rare for me to stop playing a game after a few hours because of how crappy it is.

NeverBackDown
16-09-18, 06:09 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/feralgames/status/1040206561535250438

Feral games who are known for porting games, have confirmed Warhammer 2 will launch with Vulkan support on Linux. Should release soon as they said August timeframe previously in the year

Dicehunter
17-09-18, 06:17 AM
The official Final Fantasy XV Benchmark web page shows 2080 Ti results, Significantly faster than a Titan V at roughly half the price -

http://benchmark.finalfantasyxv.com/result/


https://i.imgur.com/o3o5QQC.jpg

NeverBackDown
17-09-18, 06:47 AM
The official Final Fantasy XV Benchmark web page shows 2080 Ti results, Significantly faster than a Titan V at roughly half the price -

http://benchmark.finalfantasyxv.com/result/


https://i.imgur.com/o3o5QQC.jpg

To be fair the TV shouldn't have costed that much anyway. I wouldn't say a fair comparison for price/performance. It would be a fair comparison to say the best Volta has to offer is beaten but a slightly cut down Turing architecture.

Dicehunter
17-09-18, 06:53 AM
To be fair the TV shouldn't have costed that much anyway. I wouldn't say a fair comparison for price/performance. It would be a fair comparison to say the best Volta has to offer is beaten but a slightly cut down Turing architecture.

Well it can be whatever price/performance it wants to ATM I'm still not shelling out $1400 for a cut down GPU, I'll wait until next year and buy it pre-owned at less than half price ^_^

NeverBackDown
17-09-18, 07:03 AM
Well it can be whatever price/performance it wants to ATM I'm still not shelling out $1400 for a cut down GPU, I'll wait until next year and buy it pre-owned at less than half price ^_^

I'll probably wait till after Turing unless we get another Pascal type cycle where it's two years between then I'll see how it is

Dicehunter
17-09-18, 07:19 AM
I'll probably wait till after Turing unless we get another Pascal type cycle where it's two years between then I'll see how it is

Well if Turings price is an indication of Nvidia's price structure going forward I'll see how AMD's next GPU's line up, I'm not going to be one of the people that condones the 57% price increase, Pure greed.

AlienALX
17-09-18, 09:45 AM
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1071605/geforce-rtx-20-series/geforce-rtx-2080-ti-availability-update/?ncid=so-twi-rx20tdl-58775

AngryGoldfish
17-09-18, 12:16 PM
I'm pretty sure prices for tech is going to go up. The new tariffs on Chinese imports that Trump has introduced will possibly hurt the tech industry.

Also, I read today that Turing was supposed to be using Samsung's 10nm process, but it was delayed so they adapted to the 12nm process. Does anyone think we'll see a refresh next year with much higher clock speeds and smaller dies? If so, maybe we'll see a price drop.

Warchild
17-09-18, 12:46 PM
I'm pretty sure prices for tech is going to go up. The new tariffs on Chinese imports that Trump has introduced will possibly hurt the tech industry.

Also, I read today that Turing was supposed to be using Samsung's 10nm process, but it was delayed so they adapted to the 12nm process. Does anyone think we'll see a refresh next year with much higher clock speeds and smaller dies? If so, maybe we'll see a price drop.

It definately is. The Norwegian Kroner against the Dollar has never been as strong as it is now, for years. Analysts have stated that it is because of the tariff feud.

AngryGoldfish
17-09-18, 01:05 PM
It definately is. The Norwegian Kroner against the Dollar has never been as strong as it is now, for years. Analysts have stated that it is because of the tariff feud.

Isn't that good for you guys though? If the Kroner has increased in value, you'll be paying less for a product that has a company based in the States. Or am I getting that the wrong way around? When the GBP and the EUR dropped in value, we had to pay more for the same thing. Four years ago, a $500 GPU would cost £450 or €520. Now it would cost £550 or €620.

Warchild
17-09-18, 01:12 PM
Isn't that good for you guys though? If the Kroner has increased in value, you'll be paying less for a product that has a company based in the States. Or am I getting that the wrong way around? When the GBP and the EUR dropped in value, we had to pay more for the same thing. Four years ago, a $500 GPU would cost £450 or €520. Now it would cost £550 or €620.

Good for us, bad for others. But the retailers won't see it like that.

They see current pricing, compare it to exchange rate, and still add on what they class as "Norway" costs

so even if Norwegian kr was fantastic. We will still be forking out around 12,000-15000Norwegian Kroners. ($1400 - $1800)



To utilise it most. I would have to buy in dollars and get it shipped here while somehow bypassing the 36% import tax.

AngryGoldfish
17-09-18, 05:51 PM
Good for us, bad for others. But the retailers won't see it like that.

They see current pricing, compare it to exchange rate, and still add on what they class as "Norway" costs

so even if Norwegian kr was fantastic. We will still be forking out around 12,000-15000Norwegian Kroners. ($1400 - $1800)



To utilise it most. I would have to buy in dollars and get it shipped here while somehow bypassing the 36% import tax.

Yeah, I've noticed a lot of countries do that. It's like, once the value drops, it stays dropped whether or not it has risen again or not according to the banks.

Dicehunter
17-09-18, 07:46 PM
AMD 7nm Epyc 64 core 128 thread, All on a single socket CPU :eek:

https://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/122222-amd-7nm-64c128t-epyc-benchmark-leaks/

https://hexus.net/media/uploaded/2018/9/5bc39bac-70d4-441a-960f-425f032a4707.jpg

NeverBackDown
17-09-18, 08:21 PM
AMD 7nm Epyc 64 core 128 thread, All on a single socket CPU :eek:

https://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/122222-amd-7nm-64c128t-epyc-benchmark-leaks/

https://hexus.net/media/uploaded/2018/9/5bc39bac-70d4-441a-960f-425f032a4707.jpg

If they managed to get all that in the same die area... holy f* moly!

Dicehunter
17-09-18, 08:23 PM
If they managed to get all that in the same die area... holy f* moly!

If it's Zen 2 it could very well be 16 cores per CCX with 4 x CCX's, Zen 2 is meant to come out next early next year and considering we're at the tail end of 2018 it may well be.

Warchild
18-09-18, 07:50 AM
If it's Zen 2 it could very well be 16 cores per CCX with 4 x CCX's, Zen 2 is meant to come out next early next year and considering we're at the tail end of 2018 it may well be.

It is so good to finally see a dent appearing more and more in Intels dominance. They may not be dropping their prices, but that are at least throwing in more for the price v performance battle.

Had AMD not stepped up and pushed back, I wonder if we would ever have seen 6core mainstream.

AngryGoldfish
18-09-18, 12:52 PM
It is so good to finally see a dent appearing more and more in Intels dominance. They may not be dropping their prices, but that are at least throwing in more for the price v performance battle.

Had AMD not stepped up and pushed back, I wonder if we would ever have seen 6core mainstream.

I wonder about this as well. I think personally that Coffee Lake with a 6c would still have come, but in Q1 2018, not Q4 2017 as it did, and with a slightly higher price. As for the 8c refresh they would have kept that for a much later date. Skylake for the enthusiast market would be a max of 12c at around $1600, not 18c. And this new rumoured 28c would still just be a $5k Xeon processor.

WYP
18-09-18, 01:16 PM
Hard to know what Intel would have done. With 10nm being delayed the company needed to create something new after Kaby Lake anyway.

I think six cores was inevitable, but Zen pushed the release of the Coffee Lake forward and created Z370, a refreshed Z270 chipset. There is a reason why we are only getting Z390 now, rather than alongside Intel's other 14nm chipsets like H370 B360 etc.

Dicehunter
19-09-18, 09:53 AM
Firefox can now use your GPU instead of just the CPU, Pretty impressive performance gains -

https://www.techspot.com/news/76453-firefox-nightly-can-use-gpu-render-web-browsing.html


u0hYIRQRiws

demonking
20-09-18, 02:27 PM
Intel are pushing the h310 chipset back to 22nm due to a shortage on 14nm

https://m.hexus.net/tech/news/mainboard/122372-intel-tech-roll-back-fabbing-new-h310c-chipset-22nm/

NeverBackDown
23-09-18, 06:19 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/UbisoftStudioSF/status/1043258393639571456

So after the recent event of Telltale studios having massive layoffs because there sales were much to low, nearby Ubisoft SF posted on Twitter letting anyone who worked for Telltale to meet them at BJ's(restaurant) so they can have interviews and discussion about job opportunities.

Gotta say super awesome for Ubisoft to do that. It also makes sense too. Telltale made solid games consistently across many titles even if it was for a niche audience. So adding there talent would be very beneficial and as Ubisoft just keeps on growing there franchises it would be a great opportunity to add already proven talent. That's the business side of it...

other than that just a great move. I've said this before but Ubisoft has really turned there image around past few years. They've done a lot unlike EA.

TheF34RChannel
23-09-18, 09:51 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/UbisoftStudioSF/status/1043258393639571456

So after the recent event of Telltale studios having massive layoffs because there sales were much to low, nearby Ubisoft SF posted on Twitter letting anyone who worked for Telltale to meet them at BJ's(restaurant) so they can have interviews and discussion about job opportunities.

Gotta say super awesome for Ubisoft to do that. It also makes sense too. Telltale made solid games consistently across many titles even if it was for a niche audience. So adding there talent would be very beneficial and as Ubisoft just keeps on growing there franchises it would be a great opportunity to add already proven talent. That's the business side of it...

other than that just a great move. I've said this before but Ubisoft has really turned there image around past few years. They've done a lot unlike EA.

Excellent move on their part! Ubisoft is becoming more like EA each day though - just check out the div 2 controversies (plural, yes). Although they stick to their games and fix it where others give up and that's awesome!

NeverBackDown
24-09-18, 05:01 AM
Excellent move on their part! Ubisoft is becoming more like EA each day though - just check out the div 2 controversies (plural, yes). Although they stick to their games and fix it where others give up and that's awesome!

That's just one game though where it was built around the microtransaction model and such. Those games always have issues. Outside of that they definitely are improving customer relations and image but also there game quality/commitments are very good to. So I disagree they are becoming more like EA... one bad game while everything else is doing the opposite is something EA wish they could have. Even BF5 there saving grace every year is turning out to be a flop and i believe they downgraded there forecast for the Q4 time because of it.

Dicehunter
24-09-18, 10:59 AM
Chrome now sends your entire browser history to Google when you check Gmail, Another good reason to switch to Firefox.

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/chrome-69-now-shares-your-browser-history-with-google-when-you-check-gmail?utm_content=bufferfb1cc&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer-trfb

NeverBackDown
24-09-18, 05:20 PM
Chrome now sends your entire browser history to Google when you check Gmail, Another good reason to switch to Firefox.

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/chrome-69-now-shares-your-browser-history-with-google-when-you-check-gmail?utm_content=bufferfb1cc&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer-trfb

Not a big deal. They all use your data and have for a long time

Dicehunter
24-09-18, 05:31 PM
Not a big deal. They all use your data and have for a long time


True but grabbing browsing history is a tad creepy regardless who does it IMO.

WYP
24-09-18, 06:28 PM
Chrome now sends your entire browser history to Google when you check Gmail, Another good reason to switch to Firefox.

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/chrome-69-now-shares-your-browser-history-with-google-when-you-check-gmail?utm_content=bufferfb1cc&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer-trfb

That is not how it works. Lots of FUD going around thanks to this UI change. It won't sign you into Chrome and even if it did, Chrome Sync is not enabled by default.

NeverBackDown
26-09-18, 09:03 PM
https://youtu.be/3gqbubA6oqY

New SW VR series featuring Vader

Dicehunter
26-09-18, 09:26 PM
That is not how it works. Lots of FUD going around thanks to this UI change. It won't sign you into Chrome and even if it did, Chrome Sync is not enabled by default.


Lies you're on the Google payrol and a government stooge trying to mislead the masses into giving up our private details !!!


:D

WYP
27-09-18, 08:33 AM
https://youtu.be/3gqbuba6oqy

new sw vr series featuring vader

HYPE! (Video is not available anymore) - Hype cancelled...

I will need to find a new video.

NeverBackDown
28-09-18, 04:04 AM
HYPE! (Video is not available anymore) - Hype cancelled...

I will need to find a new video.

Well I have one for you. Although it's not Star Wars... Spoiler warning if you don't want to watch, since it's the Intro to AC: Odyssey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfSSJ9mzF9Q

Dicehunter
01-10-18, 03:56 AM
Get ready for not just the upcoming Z390 but Z399 and X599 chipsets from Intel -

https://www.techpowerup.com/248075/intel-hedt-platform-to-be-forked-into-z399-and-x599

It seems Intel are a little worried over AMD's market growth so need to introduce as many different chipsets as possible ^_^

NeverBackDown
01-10-18, 04:14 AM
Get ready for not just the upcoming Z390 but Z399 and X599 chipsets from Intel -

https://www.techpowerup.com/248075/intel-hedt-platform-to-be-forked-into-z399-and-x599

It seems Intel are a little worried over AMD's market growth so need to introduce as many different chipsets as possible ^_^

I wonder if Intel has any sort of logic.

Why would they introduce yet even more chipsets and CPUs when they are already vastly under supplied. They make all there CPUs and chipsets in house on 14nm. Having a massive lineup and a confusing one at that only makes it worse.
There Product manager needs to get whipped into shape.

AMD is just capitalizing on this.

Dicehunter
01-10-18, 04:52 AM
I wonder if Intel has any sort of logic.

Why would they introduce yet even more chipsets and CPUs when they are already vastly under supplied. They make all there CPUs and chipsets in house on 14nm. Having a massive lineup and a confusing one at that only makes it worse.
There Product manager needs to get whipped into shape.

AMD is just capitalizing on this.

I agree, Should've kept is at Z#70 and X#99, Easily recognisable branding, 1 for high end gaming, 1 for high end productivity.

Now it's just getting messy, Not too keen on it personally.

NeverBackDown
01-10-18, 06:36 AM
I agree, Should've kept is at Z#70 and X#99, Easily recognisable branding, 1 for high end gaming, 1 for high end productivity.

Now it's just getting messy, Not too keen on it personally.

I mean true it's all confusing behind the scenes and what not but they way over reacted to Zen and as a chain reaction it's now just made everything more confusing internally and externally. Just snowball affect now taking its toll on supply

NeverBackDown
01-10-18, 06:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE53eSbzxoU&t=

Assassins Creed Odyssey streamed through Google Chrome(any computer with chrome installed) at 1080p60.

https://www.engadget.com/2018/10/01/google-project-stream-assassins-creed-odyssey-game-streaming/

Can read more about it at this link.

AngryGoldfish
06-10-18, 08:31 PM
Apparently AMD has implemented a new 'gaming mode' in the TR2 WX processors called Dynamic Local Mode. They're quoting up to 47% performance gains in certain games. From the way I understand it, by offloading application threads that are most demanding to the CPU cores that have direct access to system DRAM, they can improve performance in applications that benefit from multithreading. However only the WX processors have the ability to choose between accessing memory directly or from the Infinity Fabric.

https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2018/10/05/previewing-dynamic-local-mode-for-the-amd-ryzen-threadripper-wx-series-processors?sf199456686=1

NeverBackDown
06-10-18, 08:44 PM
Apparently AMD has implemented a new 'gaming mode' in the TR2 WX processors called Dynamic Local Mode. They're quoting up to 47% performance gains in certain games. From the way I understand it, by offloading application threads that are most demanding to the CPU cores that have direct access to system DRAM, they can improve performance in applications that benefit from multithreading. However only the WX processors have the ability to choose between accessing memory directly or from the Infinity Fabric.

https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2018/10/05/previewing-dynamic-local-mode-for-the-amd-ryzen-threadripper-wx-series-processors?sf199456686=1

Nice find. Was a good read and if someone could bench this that would be pretty neat to see if the 47% figure was true.

Excalabur50
07-10-18, 10:39 AM
Microsoft has stopped the release of the October patch due to it deleting users folders and info such as Documents, music, pictures ETC. If you are affected contact Microsoft on 132058
If you have access to a different PC, please contact us at https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/contactus/. Microsoft said it will provide an update when it resumes rolling out the Windows 10 October 2018 Update to customers.

Luckily none of my stuff has disappeared yet but just in case I have backed everything up and I suggest everyone on 1809 do the same

WYP
07-10-18, 03:31 PM
Apparently AMD has implemented a new 'gaming mode' in the TR2 WX processors called Dynamic Local Mode. They're quoting up to 47% performance gains in certain games. From the way I understand it, by offloading application threads that are most demanding to the CPU cores that have direct access to system DRAM, they can improve performance in applications that benefit from multithreading. However only the WX processors have the ability to choose between accessing memory directly or from the Infinity Fabric.

https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2018/10/05/previewing-dynamic-local-mode-for-the-amd-ryzen-threadripper-wx-series-processors?sf199456686=1

Oooo, now this is interesting. Will look into this later.

NeverBackDown
07-10-18, 04:52 PM
Microsoft has stopped the release of the October patch due to it deleting users folders and info such as Documents, music, pictures ETC. If you are affected contact Microsoft on 132058
If you have access to a different PC, please contact us at https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/contactus/. Microsoft said it will provide an update when it resumes rolling out the Windows 10 October 2018 Update to customers.

Luckily none of my stuff has disappeared yet but just in case I have backed everything up and I suggest everyone on 1809 do the same

It's not deleting stuff. It places it into another folder in case the default one can't be found. Since they add new features and whatnot and delete old stuff they have to move files into different folders. I believe you can find it in your original file name that has .old as apart of the name

They've always done this btw

Excalabur50
07-10-18, 09:27 PM
It's not deleting stuff. It places it into another folder in case the default one can't be found. Since they add new features and whatnot and delete old stuff they have to move files into different folders. I believe you can find it in your original file name that has .old as apart of the name

They've always done this btw

Well according to Linus and lifehacker it's deleting files and the update is being stopped
https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2018/10/the-windows-10-october-update-has-turned-into-a-real-mess/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo8TXGcMxS4

NeverBackDown
08-10-18, 05:29 AM
Well according to Linus and lifehacker it's deleting files and the update is being stopped
https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2018/10/the-windows-10-october-update-has-turned-into-a-real-mess/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo8TXGcMxS4

Two sources who are awful:D:D
I have updated one device of mine earlier today and purposefully put data into the folders people are thinking gets deleted. Can confirm nothing got moved or deleted. So while sure some people may find it's happening I really don't think it's as big of an issue as people are making it. I'd tell you what folder it gets moved to but it didn't happen on my device so i'm not sure.

But if MS pulled the update it must be big enough of an issue. I just didn't see it and not everyone on the internet that has done has had it happen. So really who knows. It might be something specific that triggers it?

Excalabur50
08-10-18, 06:40 AM
Two sources who are awful:D:D
I have updated one device of mine earlier today and purposefully put data into the folders people are thinking gets deleted. Can confirm nothing got moved or deleted. So while sure some people may find it's happening I really don't think it's as big of an issue as people are making it. I'd tell you what folder it gets moved to but it didn't happen on my device so i'm not sure.

But if MS pulled the update it must be big enough of an issue. I just didn't see it and not everyone on the internet that has done has had it happen. So really who knows. It might be something specific that triggers it?

Not really sure buddy, my system is ok too but on the off chance there is a problem I though it important to let my OC3D family know!

NeverBackDown
08-10-18, 07:00 AM
Not really sure buddy, my system is ok too but on the off chance there is a problem I though it important to let my OC3D family know!

much appreciated bud:)

Warchild
08-10-18, 08:05 AM
It's not deleting stuff. It places it into another folder in case the default one can't be found. Since they add new features and whatnot and delete old stuff they have to move files into different folders. I believe you can find it in your original file name that has .old as apart of the name

They've always done this btw

I suppose it does pose a problem for some who dont have permitted access into the .old folder.

looz
08-10-18, 08:27 AM
Two sources who are awful:D:DIs this good enough for you, then?

https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/4464619/windows-10-update-history

Excalabur50
08-10-18, 08:41 AM
Is this good enough for you, then?

https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/4464619/windows-10-update-history

Thanks looz nice find.