"The vast majority of DX12 titles in 2015/2016 are partnering with AMD"

AMD's Robert Hallock says that "The vast majority of DX12 titles in 2015/2016 are partnering with AMD". Will DirectX 12 be a game changer for AMD?



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I hope so, it's about time AMD lead the way. I had been beginning to think twice about my 295x2 purchase a few months ago but AMD are now making me think I chose the right "Team"

I don't quite understand why people would go with AMD considering their market share? surely that's.. kinda.. like.. whut?

I really hope its because people associate gameworks with terrible games or that AMD's tech is much more open/stronger. They better not be lying/used the R&D cash pot to pay off devs.

Still, atleast GE doesn't screw people over who don't own a AMD card. I really hope this is the start of good times for AMD.

MattyD7829 said:

I hope so, it's about time AMD lead the way. I had been beginning to think twice about my 295x2 purchase a few months ago but AMD are now making me think I chose the right "Team"

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295 is awesome i have one! If i could house it, id have 2

But....I got a feeling its the openness of AMD tech which will help them, and the fact that lets face it, AMD stuff is cheaper, and im not being funny, the way DirectX 12 is supposed to help utilise hardware to its maximum potential, i can see it working in their favour, this will then hopefully push nvidia to cut prices thus creating more competition and further developing new hardware.

People also need to stop going on about market share and stuff all that is kind of irrelevant, because market shares can change per quarter, i mean it only takes a manufacturer to knock £50-£60 of the top tier gpu, and that is enough to sway people, and then the stats are released and look market share has changed, Bit like Apple and Samsung yeah?

Tress FX in the absolutely stonking Tomb Raider worked perfectly on my GTX 670s. None of this derping other hardware nonsense.

TBH? I never had any troubles when I was using Geforce cards and I saw the "AMD" logo upon start up.

Gameworks on AMD on the other hand? dear god, let's hope this is right and AMD are reaching out to gamers (though I must say that neither Deus Ex or Ashes get me excited in any way).

Said it before and I will say it again, if it wasn't for Fallout 4 I would likely have sold my gaming PC. There just isn't anything on the horizon that remotely interests me (well, aside from ME2 and the new NFSU) but I bet both of those won't live up to the hype.

AlienALX said:

Tress FX in the absolutely stonking Tomb Raider worked perfectly on my GTX 670s. None of this derping other hardware nonsense.

TBH? I never had any troubles when I was using Geforce cards and I saw the "AMD" logo upon start up.

Gameworks on AMD on the other hand? dear god, let's hope this is right and AMD are reaching out to gamers (though I must say that neither Deus Ex or Ashes get me excited in any way).

Said it before and I will say it again, if it wasn't for Fallout 4 I would likely have sold my gaming PC. There just isn't anything on the horizon that remotely interests me (well, aside from ME2 and the new NFSU) but I bet both of those won't live up to the hype.

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ME4 don't you mean buddy?

Tripp said:

ME4 don't you mean buddy?

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ME2 - Mirror's Edge 2.

AlienALX said:

ME2 - Mirror's Edge 2.

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ahhhhhhhh ok :') not sure why i didn't even think of that, suppose ME just links to mass effect in my mind ^_^

MrKambo said:

People also need to stop going on about market share and stuff all that is kind of irrelevant, because market shares can change per quarter, i mean it only takes a manufacturer to knock £50-£60 of the top tier gpu, and that is enough to sway people, and then the stats are released and look market share has changed, Bit like Apple and Samsung yeah?

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Be that as it may, the market share hasn't gone heavily in AMD's favour since before the 68x series dude. You don't get to 80+% (or whatever it was reported to be last) share without holding some pretty serious Ace cards.



Anyone with business sense would look at that trend and just not put investment into AMD ? surely?

SuB said:

Be that as it may, the market share hasn't gone heavily in AMD's favour since before the 68x series dude. You don't get to 80+% (or whatever it was reported to be last) share without holding some pretty serious Ace cards.

Anyone with business sense would look at that trend and just not put investment into AMD ? surely?

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I dont understand why that is. AMD has been very competitive in the GPU market since the 5000 series. The 5870 was the goods when it came out. The 6000's werent spectacular but were still every bit good enough to compete with Nvidia and were priced very well. The 7000's were neck and neck with Nvidia's offerings as well as the 200's. Its only with Fury that AMD stumbled and fell behind. So I get why Nvidia would be gaining share lately but I dont get why theyve been gaining it for the last couple years especially considering they were usually higher priced than AMD's offerings.

marketing mate. Marketing and advertisement is everything some times

CreatiXx said:

marketing mate. Marketing and advertisement is everything some times

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Sadly I guess youre right. I remember years ago before I knew better, the first time I played a big title on PC (Crysis) and saw that Nvidia intro screen. I thought Id screwed up buying an AMD card and it wouldnt play as well.

It's not about the Discrete GPU market anymore... it's also about the console market. When you can port a PS4 game over to Vulcan or DirectX12, with minimal effort or port over an XBoxOne DX12 game, with no effort, you get to see the way the developers are thinking.

Any DX12 GPU can run these titles, but the investments are being made in the console titles rather than the PC titles. The consoles run AMD GCN... so we get this result.

AMD taught the developer world how to code closer to Metal over many different platforms with Mantle. It appeared absurd at first, but it has paid off in the end. Quite a gamble really... but when your back is against the wall... you're willing to take big risks.

Partner ≠ Exclusive Partner

It's a bit of a meaningless statement for that reason IMO. It does disappoint me how little hype AMD gets, I would take it on myself to hype them, but there is still so much more potential in Kepler

Still waiting for a 390X Lightning.

JR

JR23 said:

Partner ≠ Exclusive Partner

It's a bit of a meaningless statement for that reason IMO. It does disappoint me how little hype AMD gets, I would take it on myself to hype them, but there is still so much more potential in Kepler

Still waiting for a 390X Lightning.

JR

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Your right it doesn't but it means we should see more frequent and better drivers from AMD on those DX12 games. Probably less so of optimization for specificlly AMD
I am awaiting a Fury Lightning

I must say I am glad for AMD they may be onto something here I do suspect however it has something to do with them partnering with Microsoft. Lets not forget HBM memory is still in very early stages I really hope this is the way forward for them. I'll consider getting a new graphics card next year, hopefully HBM2 will be out then and my Vapor x will do until that comes out

I'm waiting for a Fury Vapor X just to see if Sapphire will make one

It's kind of a mixture of everything posted in this thread as to why AMD haven't been doing so well. Poor advertising, poor performance, getting beaten to the punch by Nvidia on when to release and so on.

However, AMD have been throwing everything into GCN and other technologies that don't pay off, at least right in the now.

The last time Nvidia threw the kitchen sink into a card (the GTX 480) it was hot, loud, guzzled power and gaming performance for such a herculean die was disappointing. On paper it should have mauled the 5870, instead it barely beat it. And that was expensive.

Since then Nvidia have learned their lesson. Do not make a big powerful card, instead cut it back and clock the bejesus out of it because speed over spec gets you sales every single time. Note how they release the weak cards, then the mid range, then the high end cards now? back in the day they would release the big card first and lower end cards after. AMD are still doing this, and it's not working for them either.

People don't care about waffle. 3Dmark scores speak volumes, as stupid as it is.

Now I know AMD have been working alongside Microsoft since Windows 8 because the AMD FX range of CPUs did not work properly in Windows 7 and thus AMD had no choice but to work with Microsoft. Windows 10 contains DX12 which some say is a bit of a Mantle rip off.. Who knows?

One thing is for sure, if AMD are partnering with Microsoft and DX12 does indeed work better on this GCN they have been spending their time and money on then it would be a really good thing for them.

Right now? The Titan X still outperforms Fury X in the only benchmark we have. It's a very early, crude benchmark but once again the Nvidia cards win, because they can be clocked very high. And if these high clocks offset the fact that the AMD cards are better in DX12 then it will all be wasted air by AMD.

What we need... Well no, What AMD need is to be able to get their cards performing as well in DX12 as they did in Mantle. Where there is a clear difference between two APIs and minimum FPS levels jump by 8-10. Then they will out perform the Nvidia cards, and then they will be back in the market again.

AMD do need to stop thinking too far ahead though. Most of the stuff they invest into and put time and money into never really come to fruition. Some does (like X64) but yeah, most of it doesn't pay off (like releasing an 8 core CPU with much slower cores than Intel CPUs hoping that software will support them).

Why is everyone assuming there is no difference between Mantle and DX12 for performance and that DX12 doesn't help as much? Only takes a quick google to find that DX12 can sometimes give an 80% performance boost.... Is that not enough?
Mantle and DX12 are(were) both great, in time they should get better as well once more cards support the entire DX12 tiers and future revisions they make.

When this game releases we should finally have some more concrete data and less people claiming it's bogus, time will tell

NeverBackDown said:

Why is everyone assuming there is no difference between Mantle and DX12 for performance and that DX12 doesn't help as much? Only takes a quick google to find that DX12 can sometimes give an 80% performance boost.... Is that not enough?
Mantle and DX12 are(were) both great, in time they should get better as well once more cards support the entire DX12 tiers and future revisions they make.

When this game releases we should finally have some more concrete data and less people claiming it's bogus, time will tell

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I'm just airing caution and will believe anything once I see it.