building new comp,need help

Hi,
i need help with my new comp. my budget is 1100-1200e for case only. main use is 1080 gaming and home cinema,net... i was thinking of:

MoBo:Asus z87 maximus hero VI / AsRock Killer / MSI Gamer
CPU:i5 4670k+H55/?
GPU:Asus/MSI gtx 770
PSU:XFX 750/Antec HCG-620M
RAM:G Skill RipJaws-X cl9 kit 8GB 1600Mhz 1,50V /?
(HDD 1TB + SSD 128GB)-?
CASE: 920 II advanced/nine hundered two v3/CM Storm Enforcer

Shoot away guys; will it OC? is it a stabile build? not so noisy? better deals or combos?

Tnx in advance , PEACE

Welcome to the forums

By 1100-1200€ for the case only, I assume you mean for the PC without peripherals, not just for a case xD

What you have listed seems good, personally I'd get a PSU from a company with more reputation for making PSUs like Corsair, but that's just me being biased. The power you've gone for will be more than enough though, and would probably even handle SLI if you wanted later on.

The MoBo and CPU you've picked should be decent for overclocking, but with the 120mm radiator on the H55 and the hot Haswell CPUs, you might need the fans on quite high speed, so I'd recommend the H100 if it's within budget to allow you to have the fans quieter.

I'd definitely agree with your choice to get a large HDD as well as an SSD, it makes important things like your OS run much faster, as well as offering a lot of storage, so it's the best of both worlds.

i will probably go SLI in a while,about PSU you are wright...allways a safe bet, advice? 4 now i cant choose MoBo, HDD,SSD...H100 is great,but cost?

Depending on budget you could get very reliable PSUs from Corsair, or Seasonic, among others, which I don't know off the top of my head I'm afraid.

yes i know...was already looking but i dont know what cx lx and other stuff means. i know wattage, 80 cerf. and rails...other is sci-fi 4 me

I only know anything about Corsair naming codes.

They have several series of PSUs:

AXi series are the best, they are fully modular, compatible with Corsair Link software, and available in a range of power 760W, 860W, and 1200W.
AX are the predecessors, but are basically identical. They are not compatible with Corsair Link, and if you don't intend on using this, I'd sooner base my decision of which to get on the colour scheme (AXi is red, AX is yellowy gold). AX and AXis are the highest efficiency series in general.

HX are semi modular I believe, and have slightly lower efficiency.

TX are semi modular if they have M in the name, and non modular otherwise, and are less efficient still.

There are several more series, but you can find out all about them here

http://www.corsair.com/power-supply-units.html

As far as I know, the XFX units are rebrands from Seasonic which are known as pretty much the most reliable on the market. Not too sure about their warranty though, so that might be a good reason to buy a Corsair unit.

Honestly, I think you are overspending a bit on some things (like the motherboard). You might be better off buying a slightly cheaper one and then bump your cooling up to an H80i or even H100i. You can also get better cases for the money than the ones you've mentioned.

What currency is your budget in? Pounds? I'm sure some people here could play around with components and recommend a full build based on your needs.

I heard that same thing about XFX. I have doubts about Mobo, that is why i am opting towards Killer which is 60e cheaper than Hero. Money is Euros and i live in Slovenia.

So I had a look and I came up with this. It might be slightly out of your budget but it's what I would do. It should be really silent, overclock well and even look pretty and colour co-ordinated:

- Fractal Design Arc Midi R2
- H100i/H80i (Depends on budget, take the H100i if you can)
- Core i5 4670k
- MSI Z87-G45 Gaming
- 2x4GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz (CL 9, 1.5v)
- MSI GTX 770 Twin Frozr Gaming 2GB
- Samsung 840 Evo 120GB SSD
- WD Caviar Blue 1Tb (7200 RPM, 64mb)
- Seasonic M12II 620 Watt or Corsair CX600m

On the site where I did this I ended on €1192,- total, although prices might be slightly different in your country. A decent 600 Watt PSU is plenty for that system, but it will not allow you to go SLI in the future even though the motherboard does support it.

tnx...will take a look at sugested components later@work.i have to get ready now, and off i go.

The Picks by Feronix is pretty good if you can though try and put a bit more to the system he has said towards an RM series Corsair power supply at 750-850w to enable sli later

Feronix said:

So I had a look and I came up with this. It might be slightly out of your budget but it's what I would do. It should be really silent, overclock well and even look pretty and colour co-ordinated:

- Fractal Design Arc Midi R2
- H100i/H80i (Depends on budget, take the H100i if you can)
- Core i5 4670k
- MSI Z87-G45 Gaming
- 2x4GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz (CL 9, 1.5v)
- MSI GTX 770 Twin Frozr Gaming 2GB
- Samsung 840 Evo 120GB SSD
- WD Caviar Blue 1Tb (7200 RPM, 64mb)
- Seasonic M12II 620 Watt or Corsair CX600m

On the site where I did this I ended on €1192,- total, although prices might be slightly different in your country. A decent 600 Watt PSU is plenty for that system, but it will not allow you to go SLI in the future even though the motherboard does support it.

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this looks a much better build! defiantly go for the h100i if you can!

hi there...i took a quick look and i must say you gave me some good options. I was thinking about MSI MoBo from start, but went for Hero because i always wanted a ROG mobo and have excellent experience with ASUS.Never owned MSI mobo,just GPUs which are great (460 Hawk) ? What about CX750 ? anybody that has some first hand experience with that PSU ? What does 1.5V on ram stand for? and CL9 is latency if i remember correctly ?

Oh yea...i think i will go for air cooling after all, any ideas in mid tier ?


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just read some reviews that say MSI G45 is very bad at OC-ing. Is that true?

MSI have a pretty solid line-up for motherboards. If you desperately want an ROG motherboard, have you considered going mATX? Usually saves some money from their bigger brothers without sacrificing (much) performance these days.

I don't personally know about overclocking on the G45 Gaming but the GD65 that Tom reviewed was a really good overclocking board. I think that overclocking on Haswell is more CPU than board dependant anyway. If you don't want to go mATX and you can spend a bit more money, you could go with the GD65 Gaming which is still a bit cheaper than the Hero.

The CX series power supplies are really nice for the price, but they are Corsair 'lower end' line up. I would personally not use SLI 770s on that but rather step it up to the TX, RM or AX series.

In 1.5v the v stands for voltage. In this case the RAM uses 1.5v which is recommended. There are also RAM kits out there (especially in the 1866-2133+ segment) that use 1.65 Volt but you don't need that. In most cases it will hold overclocks on the CPU back.

Noctua do some really epic and quiet coolers, but have a horrible colour scheme. If you want a black one, I'd suggest a BeQuiet heatsink. They have different ones for pretty much every different price range. Just get the best you can afford.
It might be a good idea to buy low-profile RAM when you use aircooling, in case the RAM doesn't fit under the cooler.

Oh, and in the future please don't double post, but use the button, thanks

Drop that 770 for a 280x. I have to keep telling people it is slower and more expensive than a 280x... Rarely does a 280x fall behind a 770.

Other than that build looks solid.

Good morning,

Thank you for your advice and your time. I will go for Hero because here in my country price difference from GD65 is very small. Took your advice about PSU tho and will go for RM 750w. This will go a bit out of my budget, but i will stretch it so i am on a safe side with a good PSU. I know that 1,5v means voltage, but i was not sure if it matters for my build and if i should go for higher voltage and would profit from it.
Sorry for double posts, will use edit from now on!

@NeverBackDown - I really prefer intel and nvidia over amd because of personal experience with both...fanboy? maybe....and also i might keep one 460 for physx only until i get another 770 for SLI

...and one more thing. I still did not decide about CPU cooling, h100i looks great, and i heard only good things about it, but i am not sure how i would install it because of its double fan radiator. where would i install it? will it fit on top of the case? can i take its fans of if i install it on case top that allready has fans on it?

The H100i will fit in the roof of the fractal arc midi r2 if you decide to go with that case

and what about 920 II, will it fit on roof also? 920 is much better looks 4 my taste so i might go with it or 920 III perhaps. Will i need a low profile RAMs?

Fair enough, the Hero is a pretty good motherboard for the price. Same for the RM series PSUs

Do you, by any chance, mean the CM 690 II Advanced? I looked for a 920 II but it didn't come up with anything. The 690 II would fit an H100i but tbh, the case is a bit outdated.

- It has no rubber grommets, the Midi R2 does.
- It has no window, the R2 does.
- It only has 1x 140mm intake fan, the R2 has 2x 140mm
- PCI Slots are not ventilated.

That does not mean that it's a bad case, all I'm saying is that you can get a lot more value for your money these days, and that's exactly what you seem to be after.

As Excalibur has stated, you mount the pump/block onto your CPU and the radiator + fans in the top of your case. It is recommended to use them as an exhaust as hot air rises.



(As you can see you don't need low profile RAM when you use an H100i, but if you use a big air heatsink it will cover the RAM slots so in that case you do need low profile RAM).

As far as fans go; The Midi R2 comes with 3x 140mm fans. 1 in the front, 1 in the rear and 1 in the top. You can take the one in the top out and move it to the front, so you have 2x 140mm intakes. You can then easily mount the H100i in the roof of the case.

I would recommend you to use the fans that come with the H100i because they are optimized for static pressure, which is what you want on a radiator.