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05-04-12, 07:04 PM
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for those who have seen my rig (see sig), most of you will know that i'm planning to water cool in june once i start working again
this post is mainly for opinions on the loop i have set out for my rig, and for the more experienced water coolers to point out where i could improve.
so without further adieu, here's what i have planned:
rig specs:
(see signature)
updated wc hardware:
Pump: D5/MCP655 with EK-D5 X-TOP ver.2
Reservoir: Bitspower Z-Multi 150
Rads: 1 x 120.2 (Black Ice Xtreme II X-Flow) (with 2 x Scythe GT 1850rpm in exhaust) + 1 x 200.1 (Phobya Xtreme 200mm)
CPU Block: XSPC Raystorm (AMD)
GPU Block: EK-FC570/580 GTX+ (EN plexi one) and the complimentary backplate
Fittings: Bitspower Black Matte (see diagram for angles), Koolance VL4N quick disconnects
Tubing: Feser UV Acid Green (1/2" ID, 3/4" OD)
Coolant: Feser One F1 Acid Green
Loop setup:
i was planning to go res > pump > 200mm rad > gpu > etc. and have a quick disconnect on the long hose going from 200mm rad to gpu block (i'll try to put it as close to the rad as possible to hide it from the window on my side panel  ).
going to be going with UV cathodes or LEDs (havent decided yet), and the fans for the rads will be: 2 x scythe gentle typhoons 1850rpm, 1 x 200mm Bitfenix
what do you guys think? i hope i havent planned anything fatally incorrect and made a fool of myself...
cheers,
Ryan
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05-04-12, 08:47 PM
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Dont think the phenom is a hot chip, and the 570 isnt too hot either but unless your going with thick rads your temps wont be brilliant unless you use quick fans
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05-04-12, 09:27 PM
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what is the biggest rad you can fit into a 650d?
From what I am thinking I do not think you will be much cooler than what you would be if you just on air. If you are looking at doing some over clocking then you will want to get some bigger thicker rads.
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05-04-12, 11:28 PM
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I think that with UD3 he should be able to fit full size 240 at the roof.
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06-04-12, 08:00 AM
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i had a separate post about the rads earlier because i was not sure about cooling capacity...
in the post, i said i wouldnt overclock, but now that i think about it, i want to try overclocking my cpu a bit more. that would mean i wouldnt be cooling my gpu...
do you guys think it's worth it?
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07-04-12, 06:41 AM
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has anybody gotten their hands on a Black Ice Xtreme II rad? looking at the 240 rad cause it's got better dimensions, but i'm not sure about the FPI. even a google search hasn't yielded anything...just wondering if noctuas would be good enough for this rad...
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10-04-12, 02:31 PM
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As you can see from my build the maximum rad u can fit in the top is an Alphacool Nexxos UT45mm, this is, however, dependant on the heatsink on the mobo as i have about 2mm gap on mine.
as for the 200mm rad, the only one im aware of is the phobya, there is enough room in the 650D to have a thicker rad, anyone know of one?
i would also go for a pump/res combo will give you more room and a tidier appearance.
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10-04-12, 08:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OcSurfer
As you can see from my build the maximum rad u can fit in the top is an Alphacool Nexxos UT45mm, this is, however, dependant on the heatsink on the mobo as i have about 2mm gap on mine.
as for the 200mm rad, the only one im aware of is the phobya, there is enough room in the 650D to have a thicker rad, anyone know of one?
i would also go for a pump/res combo will give you more room and a tidier appearance.
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pics were very helpful, thanks mate  my mobo doesnt have a heatsink at the top, so my limit would be the ram slots. i took apart my rig the other day and made more accurate measurements for the rads...decided to go with the black ice xtreme ii x-flow cause the fitting layout would make it look a lot tidier in my build. this is what i have in mind now:
updated wc hardware:
Pump: D5/MCP655 with EK-D5 X-TOP ver.2
Reservoir: Bitspower Z-Multi 150
Rads: 1 x 120.2 (Black Ice Xtreme II X-Flow) (with 2 x Scythe GT 1850rpm in exhaust) + 1 x 200.1 (Phobya Xtreme 200mm)
CPU Block: XSPC Raystorm (AMD)
GPU Block: EK-FC570/580 GTX+ (EN plexi one) and the complimentary backplate
Fittings: Bitspower Black Matte (see diagram for angles), Koolance VL4N quick disconnects
Tubing: Feser UV Acid Green (1/2" ID, 3/4" OD)
Coolant: Feser One F1 Acid Green
i decided to go with a cylinder reservoir because i personally want to keep the front of my case as clean as possible, and having a bay reservoir means i would have two extra long tubes in my loop to help the reservoir pull out for filling. btw, very clean loop you've got there
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11-04-12, 02:41 PM
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personally mate get a bay res i think it will look tidier as u cant really hide away the pump and res in the 650, if your worried about the litres per hour, can always get an alphacool res and 2 of their small ceramic pump, AND you dont need to worry about long tubing as the res stays put and the fillport screws out, watch ttls latest aquatuning vid youll see what i mean
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12-04-12, 01:33 AM
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If you're going to overclock both your GPU and CPU then it's totally worth it to watercool. But if you'll run a slightly OC'ed CPU and a stock GPU, I'd tell you to stick with air cooling. It's a lot cheaper, less hassle, and safer. If you really just don't want a huge air cooler in your rig because it doesn't look goot or whatever, stick with your H80 or get an H100. I know it's "fake" watercooling but I ran an i7-2600K at 4.8GHz, 1.38v on it and never saw it go above 35 idle 65 load. I think the highest it ever went was high 80s when I first got that rig and was benching at 5.65Ghz and 1.54v.
I saw on your signature that you've got a EVGA 570 Classified. 1st, if you aren't gonna OC your GPU I don't know why on earth you got a classified version. 2nd, EVGA blocks are VERY expensive so if you're gonna watercool it, it's gonna cost you a lot of money. 3rd, I would personally get a thicker 200mm rad and do a push/pull config on it so you have a decent overhead and you get more air going into the case for positive pressure.
Apart from that, the loop diagram looks pretty good. It's as clean a build as you could do with that setup. Having the long hose from the GPU to the 200mm rad with quick disconnects is a really good idea. I absolutely love Koolance's quick disconnect system, I think they're genius. I would actually get one between the pump and the reservoir as well if you have enough space.
So yeah in synthesis: if you've gonna spend such a huge mount of money on watercooling, you better OC both your CPU and especially your classified edition GPU. Otherwise you're better off sticking with air cooling and using the money you save on another 570.
Cheers
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