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Old 14-10-10, 09:19 PM
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Hello! Tom sent me here, from youtube.

I am going to build myself a pc for the first time, and I wanted to make sure I did everything right. So I have been researching alot about PC building, but when it comes to cooling, everyone seems to have different opinions..

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Case: Antec Three Hundred ( 1x 140mm Top, 1x 120mm Rear )

CPU: i7 950 @ Stock speed. Not going to OC.

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R

RAM: 6gb of Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1600MHz

PSU: Chieftec Super Series 650W

GPU: HD 5850

The PC is going to be used for pretty heavy gaming, and heavy video and 3D rendering software.

All of these parts come together, it's an offer from the store I am buying from, so I won't be changing any of the parts.

I have considered 2 options.

1. Install 2 extra 120mm intake fans in the front.

2. Install a H50, plus the 2 extra 120mm intake fans.

What are you guys takes on this?

Will stock cooling be enough, or do I need to replace the stock CPU cooler?

Or any other solution, you guys probably know what to do.

Budget isn't really a question, I just want to know the cheapest/easiest way to keep this rig cool enough.

Thanks!

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Old 14-10-10, 09:46 PM
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the only way u want to cool is the noctua nh-d14 when overclockin but i would even say the stock was sufficient if your not overclocking,

i know u said u cant change the parts but id change that case as they are very poor no cable management at all and made of cheap thin steel ive owned one and it lasted me about 3 weeks b4 i got shot of it, the mobo is fine ram and cpu are all a good choice another problem with that psu id really want to go for nothing less than a corsair mate

then the 5850? you can get 2 460's in sli very cheap spankin new (£250 for both) these days and they will utterly blow the 5850 out the water it spanks a 480 and 5870 when you overclock the 460's plus with them u get cuda and thats the business at rendering and encoding

id say this is what u should get and buy them separately and end up with a far superior pc

Case: Xigmatek Utgard

CPU: i7 950

Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 (i know your not going to overclock but its best to have it there when u decide to)

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R

RAM: 6gb of Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1600MHz

PSU: Corsair HX650W

GPU: Any Nvidia GTX460 768mb SLI
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Old 14-10-10, 10:07 PM
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if you are 100% not going to overclock get the NH-c12p se14 I used in the server, deffo dont buy the H50 fella.

Steppy is right about the Utgard and the 460's but tbh 1 460 should do you fine and you can get another later and sli if you want some more power.
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Old 14-10-10, 10:08 PM
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the only way u want to cool is the noctua nh-d14 when overclockin but i would even say the stock was sufficient if your not overclocking,

i know u said u cant change the parts but id change that case as they are very poor no cable management at all and made of cheap thin steel ive owned one and it lasted me about 3 weeks b4 i got shot of it, the mobo is fine ram and cpu are all a good choice another problem with that psu id really want to go for nothing less than a corsair mate

then the 5850? you can get 2 460's in sli very cheap spankin new (£250 for both) these days and they will utterly blow the 5850 out the water it spanks a 480 and 5870 when you overclock the 460's plus with them u get cuda and thats the business at rendering and encoding

id say this is what u should get and buy them separately and end up with a far superior pc

Case: Xigmatek Utgard

CPU: i7 950

Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 (i know your not going to overclock but its best to have it there when u decide to)

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R

RAM: 6gb of Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1600MHz

PSU: Corsair HX650W

GPU: Any Nvidia GTX460 768mb SLI
Originally, this package came with the corsair psu, and a Fractal Design R3 or CM 690, but they changed it.

I just want to know if I need to buy another CPU cooler or just 2 extra fans to make this rig work... With the specs I wrote in the thread.

I won't change to the GTX460, cause it's not that much cheaper, and a 5850 crossfire should beat that again. I don't wanna get into a GPU fight, I am just too much of a ATI fanboy..
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Old 14-10-10, 10:12 PM
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Originally, this package came with the corsair psu, and a Fractal Design R3 or CM 690, but they changed it.

I just want to know if I need to buy another CPU cooler or just 2 extra fans to make this rig work... With the specs I wrote in the thread.

I won't change to the GTX460, cause it's not that much cheaper, and a 5850 crossfire should beat that again. I don't wanna get into a GPU fight, I am just too much of a ATI fanboy..
Honestly I doubt anyone on here has those exact same specs so you should just run it stock and see what your temps are and then decide what you need to change to keep the temps where you want them. If you are a huge ATI fan and can wait a few weeks, wait for the 6000 series to debut.
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Old 14-10-10, 10:25 PM
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Honestly I doubt anyone on here has those exact same specs so you should just run it stock and see what your temps are and then decide what you need to change to keep the temps where you want them. If you are a huge ATI fan and can wait a few weeks, wait for the 6000 series to debut.
Yeah, that's probably the way to go.. The stock cooler on the 950 can't be that bad..

I've been thinking about the 6000 series, but they will probably be very expensive at launch.. What I like about ati compared to nvidia is the lower heat and power consumption.

The 460 is a real beast at lower resolutions, but the 5850 seems to win at higher resolutions.. And when I can get 1 card that is almost as good as a SLI, without being too much of a price difference, i'll go for the single card.

Even in a couple of years, a 5850 crossfire should do good, and I am planning on going crossfire in the future.
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Old 14-10-10, 10:39 PM
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Yeah, that's probably the way to go.. The stock cooler on the 950 can't be that bad..

I've been thinking about the 6000 series, but they will probably be very expensive at launch.. What I like about ati compared to nvidia is the lower heat and power consumption.

The 460 is a real beast at lower resolutions, but the 5850 seems to win at higher resolutions.. And when I can get 1 card that is almost as good as a SLI, without being too much of a price difference, i'll go for the single card.

Even in a couple of years, a 5850 crossfire should do good, and I am planning on going crossfire in the future.
Waiting for the 6000 is a good call, also look at the Noctua I said about, stock fan? pffffftt shame on you
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Old 14-10-10, 10:55 PM
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Waiting for the 6000 is a good call, also look at the Noctua I said about, stock fan? pffffftt shame on you
I checked out the Noctua, it's only 13£ cheaper than the H50. But, will I get enough air flow in the case for the Noctua to do it's thing?

Now I kinda want to wait for the 6000, but honestly, don't you think I will be fine with the 5850 for at least 2 years? And then either crossfire or buy a new sick gpu..

If I buy a new GPU in 2 years, I can OC the 950, and it shouldn't bottleneck the GPU at all..
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The H50 is noisey and horrible mate, really Im not saying this for no reason. If you dont want to overclock buy the C12P.

Bottle neck... dont be daft with your rig.
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