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Old 11-11-09, 12:43 AM
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OC3D Review: AMD Phenom II X4 965BE Rev C3

Mul takes a look at the AMD Phenom II X4 965BE Rev C3 to see if the new CPU is much of an upgrade over its older C2 brother.

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Old 15-11-09, 11:35 AM
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Great stuff.

Thing interesting me is what market is open for these AMD cpus.

I feel they need to provide a 'need' to buy an AMD cpu. Existing AM2/3 owners will see them as attractive, but this market I think is both small and arguably only getting smaller.

If u have even an existing 775 setup, do u switch ? (similar argument to changing to anything - age of components maybe)

If ur older setup craps out, do u go AM2/3 or iX/775 ?

Without being an immediate 'got to get' I think it's too easy to overlook them. I can think of 100s of people who recognize these, and previous AMD models, are damn fine cpus - very respectable, and yet when the crunch comes they still won't go AMD<-Intel.

They need something. I've been a long advocate of them doing something special between their cpus and gpus. Something special that if u have 1 of the group, u can't experience, yet coupled together u get.... something.... They've got both techs in their labs for years now, it's about time they pushed something unique.
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Old 15-11-09, 11:53 AM
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It would be something to see some kind of "synergy" between their CPU's and GPU's though we'll see how something like that could be implemented beyond just hot air from the marketing department.

As it stands, AMD is playing the "bang per buck" game however this has diminished with the arrival of the Core i5 750. The 965BE and i5 750 exchange punches on the gaming front but it's all over when we start factoring in overclocking headroom.

While overclocking yields have improved (as shown) it still has nothing on the Core i5/i7 processors which (heatsink allowing) tends to have little trouble reaching 4.0GHz. AMD are also able to tout good results with their system platform as they already have a strong graphics card and right now, much of today's games seem to have enough GPU dependancy for the CPU to take a back seat (within reason of course).

This competitive bang per buck edge will diminish to some extent over the next year, although their Thuban 6 core CPU will help gain some more sales. Unfortunately for AMD, they will have to let Intel pound ahead in the upper high end until Bulldozer is alive and kicking.
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