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Old 01-09-09, 02:33 AM
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UK internet "3 strikes" scandal: debunking Mandy

Techdirt does a pretty good job of covering the world of intellectual property and the abuses by Big Media (RIAA/MPAA) in America and the rest of the world including England, of course. They've got governments all over the world in their pocket to work against their people in order to stifle innovation to protect an outdated and corrupt business model - and it seems to be working.

After being wined and dined by Hollywood big cheese David Geffen, our governments' Peter Mandelson has suddenly done a u-turn and is now in favour of 3 strikes. Gosh, what a coincidence! On top of that he's gone on record defending it.

Here's an article debunking his arguments, from top to bottom, courtesy of Techdirt. Use this as a reference to speak knowledgably if you are challenged about this in conversation or protest.

Techdirt: Peter Mandelson Defends His Sudden Conversion To Kicking People Off The Internet
(quite long)

Remember, the Digital Britain report took 3 strikes off the table as a lame-ass idea only a short while ago, but it's suddenly back on the table courtesy of our unelected Mandy and his pal Dave.

And guess what? Five minutes later the BSA is getting in on 3 strikes!

It just gets worse and worse.

Techdirt: BSA Jumps Onto The Three Strikes Bandwagon

Another excellent source of info on these abuses is www.p2pnet.net run by English guy Jon, in Canada.

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Old 01-09-09, 06:48 AM
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called politics. Gay Mandy will suck whoevers **** is offering him the best deal at the time.

The scariest thing is when the tories win the next election he will still be buried in the political system with MASSIVE powers and un-fireable.
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Old 01-09-09, 10:58 AM
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called politics. Gay Mandy will suck whoevers **** is offering him the best deal at the time.

The scariest thing is when the tories win the next election he will still be buried in the political system with MASSIVE powers and un-fireable.
Yeah, that's sickening. Regardless, Big Media will corrupt whoever is in power, whether it's Mandy or someone else.

I wonder, if Thatcher had still been in power, would she have been so malleable?
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Old 01-09-09, 11:51 AM
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The worst part of this is that it isn't just file sharers who'll get caught up in this. No, as IP tracking has been proven to not be a reliable way of identifying someone, people who never file share are gonna find themselves on the wrong end of the stick - and correcting the error will be an uphill struggle at best.

What a nightmare.
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Old 01-09-09, 01:06 PM
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We'll be ok, it says england
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Old 05-09-09, 01:39 AM
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Can I ask a serious question here?

Say I was looking for a game in my drawer and I open the case to find there is no darn CD. I see the serial on the back of the book but no disc. I can't find it and I'm not paying for a game I already have. Would downloading that game and using my CDKEY be illegal? I do own the game and have a legit serial number, how can they class that as piracy?

When something is good enough it will sell, people do respect companies still. Recently I have been purchasing all my software because of my income increasing dramatically.
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Old 05-09-09, 10:36 AM
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Grey area, and I think all publishers would say ur in the wrong.

Afaic, looking it as the media as a delivery method and the key as a license to use - I'd personally be ok with it.

However, there are versions of software 'meant' to be used as methods of delivery, and there are those that are not meant for distribution.

IF the eula relies more heavily on the license key, i.e. in the realm of online gaming I believe it's the majority of the case, as u can download as well as buy a cd/dvd - even as far as versions of windows u can legitimately download - as long as ur license key is purchased and valid, ur good to go. Infact I would go to the extent of saying these days microsoft care very little where u got the windows install AS LONG as u have a legitimately purchased key. (for example a laptop u bought in a pub with a dodgy install and u go online to purchase a key after it falls over)

How do u read the eula without a cd/dvd would be tricky.

With a legitimately purchased key - I wouldn't personally worry that I've broken laws, perhaps one has been technically fractured, in terms of copying of intellectual property, but on the grand scale of things u have endeavoured to be legal.

There is a question floating around here about, what if u have the original and for some reason u stepped on the cd/dvd or it's hubring has broken (as my vista ultimate ones are) from poxy laptop trays. I'm sure publishers customer services have an answer to this - but it will surely cost u money.

This is another reason to backup ur software, which ur entitled to do, and work off the backup.
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Old 05-09-09, 10:41 AM
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I do a similar thing Youngie, I hate discs! so I download the isos for my games, I own them all and do not download anything I have not bought. I would convert them myself but that takes forever!
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Old 05-09-09, 10:52 AM
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Shouldn't take long m8.

Often a fast method of install, and a smaller footprint, can be to copy the contents of the cd/dvd to ur harddrive in a folder.

I guess u go with a no-cd option too.

(we're talking about being legit owners here first, and it'd be best to keep it on those lines as OC3D has strict rules on this subject and we're pretty close as it is)
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Old 06-09-09, 05:53 AM
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I use ISO's and daemon tools at work for most of our disks.

Everyone has access to the disks and it means they dont lose the original disks, use them as a coffee mat :-)
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