Motorcyclist films friend's death

[PeterStoba]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...eed-limit.html

Opinions? What do you think, was the car driver in the wrong or is it 100% the biker's fault?

Some people will obviously think differently about the situation (usually the bikers who are confident at those speeds)

[Ghosthud1]

it was both there fault, car was trying too overtake at the wrong time and hit the biker who came up on the inside with cars coming in both directions

[ToeJam]

hmm dont think its really worth discussing since someone died....imo

[monkey7]

Own fault. He overtook at a dangerous place at a dangerous speed at an even more dangerous moment.

[Ian Evey]

I have to say that the car who overtook should never have done so at that time on a single carriage way, but as the car driver was a little reckless he would have been ok.

The bike had no way of knowing the car was going to overtake and i am sure he had done the same thing many times in the past but no one should do 100mph on a single carriage road.

I am sure there both to blame but the car driver and the bikers friend will be burdened with that moment for the rest of his life.

[VonBlade]

Rider obviously. If he'd have been doing the speed limit then he wouldn't have been hit by the muppet in the hatchback. If he'd have had half a brain he wouldn't have tried to go three-wide on a single-lane road.

In fact, if he'd have just been tootling along the hatchback driver would have been killed by the collision with the camper. After all, he'd never have made that pass stick.

[Jim]

IMO bikes should respect the rules of the road just the same way that cars do. Dodging and weaving in and out of traffic, coming within millimetres of cars wing mirrors etc is only asking for trouble and drivers of cars shouldn't have to look out for the idiot speeding down the white line.

The real victims here are the innocent people who had to witness the incident and will probably be haunted for life. Not the idiot on the motorbike breaking the law and playing with his life.

[FarFarAway]

Innocent people witnessing the incident now including me

The car was driving badly and was blatently reckless. I think there was just about enough room for them to overtake, but no way should they be doing that.

However, the dangerous driving of both bikes was appalling. Doing over 110MPH on busy public road? Deathwish. I've driven a car over 130MPH (by mistake, didn't realise my speed in an incredibly fast car), I'm ashamed to say and at that speed you lose a little peripheral vision as everything goes past you too fast to take in. Going 160MPH on a bike on a busy road is wishing to be killed. Overtaking a long line of cars at like 80MPH in what looks like rush hour is also a certain way to die. Just because you can does not mean you should.

[mayhem]

no one will learn from it.

It will happen again and gain.

I feel sorry for camper van people ....

[tinytomlogan]

Car was in the wrong but its not his fault the biker died.