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Old 04-11-08, 06:09 AM
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Time For Some Change!!!!!

Lets not screw this up America.

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Old 04-11-08, 07:58 AM
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Agreed, let's hope you guys actually get the decent one in. Having another bumbling old fool as President just wouldn't be on.
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Old 04-11-08, 09:33 AM
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ROFL agreed. I just can't wait to see what Frag says about this
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Old 04-11-08, 12:59 PM
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Come on Obama! Having your president deliver his speeches from a Zimmer Frame would just be ridiculous.
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Old 04-11-08, 01:05 PM
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Makes no difference either way. The election is merely a popularity contest with 2 puppets.

Too bad Condalesa? Rice is going to uni, that might`ve been something.
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Old 04-11-08, 01:45 PM
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To add to my earlier post i just thought I'd put something I posted on another forum:

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I much as we hate to admit, this election has an effect on europe as much as it will in the USA. A lot of people outside of america will have an opinion - majority pro-obama - cos of the negative effect (imo) that bush and the republican party have had on global affairs.
QFT, in the UK we have to suffer the US's decisions because of a "special relationship" between our two countries which basically means we get roped into fighting in wars our country has absolutely no business in, or our economy goes into meltdown because bankers in the US were too busy selling debt and watching their pockets get fatter.

Obama is without doubt the best choice, I just hope he can make good the many mistakes left to him by his predecessors.
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Old 04-11-08, 01:48 PM
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Obama is without doubt the best choice, I just hope he can make good the many mistakes left to him by his predecessors.
That`s interesting, what is it about Obama that makes him the "without doubt" choice ?

He does wear nice shirts.
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Old 04-11-08, 02:03 PM
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If McCain pops his clogs... Palin becomes President, that is reason enough imo to vote Obama, but he has policies which are actually inventive, might be what America needs to get through the economic hard times ahead.
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Old 04-11-08, 02:04 PM
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That`s interesting, what is it about Obama that makes him the "without doubt" choice ?

He does wear nice shirts.
Well there's a lot. I support Obama because of his positions on abortion, the economy, and health care. He is a smart man that is what the American Dream is all about. McCain on the other hand is an old fool that through away his values in this campaign and recruited Sarah Palin to attempt to get the women vote. I don't think he counted on Palin being an incompetent fool and going "diva."

That word was used by a McCain senior adviser btw.
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Old 04-11-08, 02:17 PM
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Well there's a lot. I support Obama because of his positions on abortion, the economy, and health care. He is a smart man that is what the American Dream is all about. McCain on the other hand is an old fool that through away his values in this campaign and recruited Sarah Palin to attempt to get the women vote. I don't think he counted on Palin being an incompetent fool and going "diva."

That word was used by a McCain senior adviser btw.
Obama is pro-choice afaik.

The economy... in what way ?

Smart ? In what way ? That he`s coached ?

McCain is an old fool ? Quite harsh and quite a broad sweeping remark of a person that ~really~ is based on looks ? Experience ?

Obama worries me as he`s a mascot. One that, even when the whole world thought "it was a good idea at the time", based on evidence provided and not opinion, voted against doing anything in Iraq. And will, according to himself, will start withdrawing troops from day1.

McCain, imo, is a blatent throw down to get Obama elected. Out of the 4 representitives, Obama/McCain/Palin/Biden, I wouldn`t elect ANY of them to run a council, yet alone what`s perceived to be the most powerful position on the planet. Palin may be an absolute cougar, but if it was Clinton/Biden or Clinton/Obama - we still wouldn`t know even who she was. How do u get that gig ? A heart attack away from being the president.

It is clear tho, the president elect will be who the media decides the public should vote for.

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If McCain pops his clogs... Palin becomes President, that is reason enough imo to vote Obama, but he has policies which are actually inventive, might be what America needs to get through the economic hard times ahead.
Strange how some1 is even put up as a candidate and they`re fully expected to die within 4 years. Almost Reagan esque.

What are his economic policies ? Taxing those over $250k more, which changed to $175, to $150, and is now $125. Anything that satisfies the audience being spoken to.

None of them have any "solid" economic policies. Economics isn`t based on a pro-active hands on approach to managing finances, it`s more reaction to what happens within the market. In 2009 we have absolutely no idea what`s about to happen, and yet we think some1 with a few months of experience is going to be the champion over who ?

What is for sure is that there won`t be "tough choices" but very unpopular required choices - and who-ever is elected will propose them and be slated for what ever the house decides to pass. It`s 4 years of some1 b4 another irrational choice is made.

What worries me is Russia`s imminant grab for the old days of the soviet union. They want it, and the coming years will be about what we`re going to do about it.
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