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Old 24-07-08, 10:35 AM
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OC3D Review: PowerColor HD4870 512MB PCI-E

"High performance without the high price tag? We take a look at PowerColor's HD4870 to see how it fairs against the green teams GTX260."



PowerColor HD4870 512MB PCI-E

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Old 24-07-08, 10:58 AM
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I`m a little supprized in that this card was pushed as being AMD`s answer to the GTX280, and the ensuing arguement about the price of the 2 was that the nVidia are having a laugh.

Looking at this review, it`s an overly obvious competitor for the GTX260 - which is fine, and the pricing is -£20 or so to nVidia, which kinda puts a difference perspective on things.

The 280 being that much more.. well yeah ok it happens to be the better card out of the 4 without "competition" (used loosely here), and the trend here is "pfft we`ll charge whatever we like for it" - just look at Intel with it`s cpus that compare to the AMD cpus and those that are beyond comparison.

In terms of loosely labeling that there is no competition.. well that`s kind of a misleading statement today. All 4 of the cards reviewed will not be held back in any way by games u throw at it in comparison to each other. The distinction is that on paper some to 10,20,30, whatever frames more than the other - the other already doing awesome frames. And the looks.. all 4 will give u an immensely pleasing experience.

This for me is where the OC3D cost per frame blows many reviews out of the water. There has been need for a change in review styles. Benchmarking doesn`t mean what it used to, in terms of gaming, perhaps bracketing only. Quality of picture is very hard to put over, other than u have to accept that they`ll all output at the same quality-standard. So what`s left is what u pay for them...

The strong arguement in addition to this is the screen sizes, and I think this may get more of a question as monitors get cheaper and standard resolutions get bigger. 20-22" widescreens mainly operate at 1680x1050 - this is almost being the norm for me. 24" above can be the same, with quality models offering the higher resolutions again. There`s even larger monitors out there being used where perhaps 24" was in the past.

With these thoughts in mind, the size of monitor vS the cost of the cards vS the capability of the card at the standard resolution u want - u should pick out of the 4. Smaller resolution, 17/19" square - 4850 will be fine, 24"+ u may chose the 280 and be able to afford it considering what u already purchased.

It`s sad that performance isn`t the stickler for selection - but having `quality` become a replacement for it isn`t wholey a bad thing.

Great review again btw.

PS. need more bumpff, when will manufacturers learn that graphic cards and mobos need to be accompanied with misc bumpff! Don`t care too much what it is, but c`mon.
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Old 24-07-08, 11:34 AM
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Isn't there 8.7 catalyst drivers out now, apprently this gives an increase in peformance.
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Old 24-07-08, 12:32 PM
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Isn't there 8.7 catalyst drivers out now, apprently this gives an increase in peformance.
Yeah. Was released about a day after we completed the benches of this card *sigh*.
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Old 24-07-08, 02:59 PM
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Yeah I'm with Rasta on this one, you can benchmark something to the hills but have to put it in context with the rest of the equipment your using it on, I've had similar arguements with certain people (a family member who runs a water cooled 8800gt sli Q6600 rig but won't shell out for a decent monitor,he still has a 19inch curved 4:3 crt lg thats nearly 8 years old and refuses to part with it due to it costing him 600 quid "back in the day" go figure)......can anybody really notice wether fear is running at 130fps or 200fps....I think not....so picking cards on price per frame ratio I feel is a good balancing factor...kudos to OC3D for another good review...and good on ATI for finally stepping up to the challenge with there 4xxx series....
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Old 24-07-08, 03:59 PM
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Yeah. Was released about a day after we completed the benches of this card *sigh*.
Trouble is, u do a retest, write it up - and then nVidia bring a new driverset out.. and on..
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Old 24-07-08, 04:19 PM
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Trouble is, u do a retest, write it up - and then nVidia bring a new driverset out.. and on..
Yep exactly. Gotta do it with what is available right then and there.

IMO if companies don't have quality drivers for their products at the time of release, then they deserve whatever poor performance results show up in the review.
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Frankly for me ATI have done a helluva lot more innovating in an over-crowded market and deserve praise for it. Sure the 280 is a little faster but ATI deserve recognition for the fantastic price/performance ratio
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Still got the card? You could always run one (or more) unofficial tests and post a screenie in this thread
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Nice review Jim...

Good to see Ati back in the fray, will be especially interesting for peeps who have a keen Mrs who keeps track of every PC related spend
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